For those wondering, the theme / style he's using to make the tabs, side bar, and status bar pretty can be found here: https://github.com/buymeasoda/soda-theme
Three Months with Sublime Text 2
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Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#32I gave ST2 about three months too, but I haven't found enough to keep me. I've moved back to Macvim...
Anybody tried ST2 and moved back to TextMate?
That would be me. The one feature it misses is multiple line editing by holding down option and dragging.
Though the op's tips make me want to has another look.
Cheers
Marcus
Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#33Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#34I really liked Sublime Text, but each time I try to search for some word in 20MB log file it reminds me how slow and unresponsive it is compared to Emacs. The closest to my ideal editor would be Emacs with visual appearance of ST2.
Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#35I tried Sublime and it works well, but RubyMine still won me over for Ruby because it finally feels polished and it's fast thanks to new hardware with plenty of RAM & CPU. For text editing, Sublime just couldn't match vim & emacs because they're widely available on remote servers via SSH.
At high risk of sounding like a broken record, give sshfs a try.
Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#36The most consistent pushback against ST2 is how ugly and non-native folk find it. Lots of us get past that and really give it a chance, but I can't help but hope that Jon reads this and considers spending a couple weeks/months purely on styling, possibly with the help of a specialist.
It doesn't improve the editor's functionality, but sales and adoption wise I think it would go a long way. Especially on the Mac.
Specifically:
* The file browser is really odd. Very non-native. No in-line name updates. Odd sliding around of items coming in and out. No drag and drop. It works, but it is death by a thousand paper cuts.
* Find results tab - also really odd. It's a real buffer, you can edit text in it - but it doesn't change the source material. Just the result tab. Very odd.
* Split windows are great, but the grouping in the sidebar is odd. What's group 1 vs group 2 vs group 3, etc.
* The color scheme is ugly. Very few text editors on Mac default to light text on a dark background. The dark chrome tabs are odd.
* While I love how flexible the configuration settings are, rooting around in a .js file is kind of a pain in the ass. Some basic scaffolding that throws up a configuration dialog [that looks native!] would be great. If for option discovery, if nothing else!
* If you have split panes active, there is no way to quickly tell which tab has the cursor. Each split has a set of inactive tabs and a single active tab. It's hard to figure out exactly which tab has the cursor if you're flipping back and forth from a terminal.
Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#37The most consistent pushback against ST2 is how ugly and non-native folk find it. Lots of us get past that and really give it a chance, but I can't help but hope that Jon reads this and considers spending a couple weeks/months purely on styling, possibly with the help of a specialist. It doesn't improve the editor's functionality, but sales and adoption wise I think it would go a long way. Especially on the Mac. Spec…
I hope this comes true that the developer of ST2 will shift focus to the cosmetics and the interactions.
Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#38The most consistent pushback against ST2 is how ugly and non-native folk find it. Lots of us get past that and really give it a chance, but I can't help but hope that Jon reads this and considers spending a couple weeks/months purely on styling, possibly with the help of a specialist. It doesn't improve the editor's functionality, but sales and adoption wise I think it would go a long way. Especially on the Mac. Spec…
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Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#39I read feature lists of editors like this and wonder why people just don't use a good IDE like IntelliJ. It does everything in this list and a lot more with minimal configuration.
Ignoring what other users have said (bloat, speed, noise, etc), I find that my code in an editor like ST2/TextMate/VIM ends up being substantially better and more maintainable than code written in a full-blow IDE. The full-blow IDE may mask code smell by making it easy to push on when things get ugly.
For a trivial example, if you can't remember the name of some function you wrote in another module, it may be the case that the function was poorly named or the code you are currently writing is trying to do too many things. In an full-blown IDE, it doesn't feel wrong; in a simple text editor, it actually hurts. (Yes, ST2 has autocomplete, but IIRC, it's based on a tokenizer, not a parser. In either case, I operate with it disabled.)
IMHO, it's a trade-off. It requires marginally more mental effort to compose code without the features of a full-blown IDE. This marginal increase in effort may slow me down considerably in the beginning to middle parts of a project compared to someone using a full-blown IDE; however, by the time I "catch up," my code will probably be more conducive to safe expansion and maintenance, and for all but trivial projects, that's the majority of development time.
Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2
#40I gave ST2 about three months too, but I haven't found enough to keep me. I've moved back to Macvim...
Anybody tried ST2 and moved back to TextMate?
I gave it a shot one weekend, but went back to my highly-customized TextMate. ST2 is still rough around the edges. It doesn't show source control status in the sidebar. TextMate has the ProjectPlugin plugin which solves a lot of those problems: http://ciaranwal.sh/projectplus. ST2's find-in-project was also kind of annoying, at least compared to AckMate (https://github.com/protocool/AckMate).
I realized I don't want to make the same mistake that I made when I switched to TextMate: Using a closed-source editor. One day, Sublime Text 2 will stop being developed. It's not clear if they'll ever change the license to something that allows community development. ST2 will probably end up like TextMate: consigned to the graveyard of abandoned closed-source text editors.
That's one advantage of Vim and Emacs: They're never going away.