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Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by AdmiralAsshat » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:41 PM UTC

lemmsjid wrote: post #13

As an ex new englander I approve of y’all over youse because it’s hard to use “youse” efficiently without saying “youse guys”.

What about "youse mugs"?

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:41 PM UTC

hatthew wrote: post #24

Handprint4469 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "you guys" is sexist is it though?

> to some ears

OP added that after the reply.

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:42 PM UTC

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Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by o11c » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:42 PM UTC

mandibles wrote: post #3

Only a true Texan can tell you the difference between "y'all" and "all y'all".

"all y'all" is an abomination.

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by zikduruqe » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:42 PM UTC

desert_rue wrote: post #19

thirdtruck wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or a Georgian.

I believe the Georgian version is different. “Y’all” is singular while “all y’all” is plural.

From North Carolina originally. "Y'all" is singular, "all y'all" is plural, and "all y'all MF'ers" is when you are angry and it could be singular or plural depending on the connotation.

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by anotherevan » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:43 PM UTC

Thanks all y’all for y’all. I’m taking y’all. I love y’all. Because “y’all” is the best, most inclusive second-person, plural pronoun in the English-speaking world. Thank you, the South. What an ally.

— Hannah Gadsby, Douglas

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by bigstrat2003 » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:44 PM UTC

Handprint4469 wrote: post #15

gregw2 wrote: post #11

I tease non-Texans that Texan English is actually superior to normal American English because it supports second-person plural via "Y'all" exactly as mentioned in this article... "you guys" is, to some ears, sexist, and "youse guys" (a New York-ism) is a little too old-school Italian. English lost its second person plural when we switched from Thou (second person singular formal + Thee=second person singular informal…

> "you guys" is sexist is it though?

It's not sexist at all, and anyone who objects to it on those grounds is flat out looking for excuses to be offended.

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by TZubiri » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:44 PM UTC

grammatical number, singular, plural

1st person, ME, US

2nd person, YOU, Y'ALL

3rd person, HE/SHE/THEY, THEY

In spanish we have the distinction naturally: USTED, USTEDES

Another example of genuine language tools dismissed as "Incorrect" is African American Vernacular English's "you be", "he be" tense. I don't know the exact distinction, Steven Pinker explains it well.

On that note, "that there rooster" is perfecty valid English as well.

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:45 PM UTC

xnx wrote: post #22

Previously "Y’all: the Most Inclusive of All Pronouns - The South’s default collective form of address is the best of the American vernacular." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/18/magazine/yall.html

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Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Post by anonymoushn » Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 8:45 PM UTC

gregw2 wrote: post #11

I tease non-Texans that Texan English is actually superior to normal American English because it supports second-person plural via "Y'all" exactly as mentioned in this article... "you guys" is, to some ears, sexist, and "youse guys" (a New York-ism) is a little too old-school Italian. English lost its second person plural when we switched from Thou (second person singular formal + Thee=second person singular informal…

We have an English equivalent for "todos vosotros" as well!