I'm proud to have contributed my grain of sand in the form of two tiny patches for this release.
XFCE 4.20 Released
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Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
An argument where this is a problem with the protocol instead of uncompliant vendors is disingenuous.
The protocol might be good, but my hardware is not supported by wlroots. Whether this is the fault of upstream or the hardware vendor does not matter. I cannot run wlroots, ever. Period.
It does matter, because one post before you felt entitled to put the blame on the protocol. Nuance is pretty important when you take into account the difference in amount of resources available to the two groups.
Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#33I really like the XFCE implementation on Kali Linux because the desktop menu(?) includes a search bar. When I install XFCE on other distros like Ubuntu and Arch, this feature is missing out of the box. Is this a standard feature and/or is there a standard method to add it to other Linux distros?
This? https://gottcode.org/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/
I thought this was just default with XFCE in general
Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
The protocol might be good, but my hardware is not supported by wlroots. Whether this is the fault of upstream or the hardware vendor does not matter. I cannot run wlroots, ever. Period.
It does matter, because one post before you felt entitled to put the blame on the protocol. Nuance is pretty important when you take into account the difference in amount of resources available to the two groups.
Don't know which post you are referring to. We must be reading different threads.
Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#35Experimental Wayland support is a dealbreaker.
The whole Wayland experience has been experimental
Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
XFCE is the one running late here. Gnome, kde, and even all the wlroots based compositors have been pretty solid
If you ignore things like randomly running into screen sharing problems or issues configuring XYZ thing because Gnome or whoever can't be arsed to expose it in their Wayland implementation. I keep trying Wayland and then swapping back to X11. Less issues and I never notice the things Wayland "solves", just what it breaks.
Indeed. I kept hearing "Wayland solves problems with two monitors at different refresh rates" But when I set up mismatching monitors, X11 didn't skip a beat (1440p native/120Hz, 1440p (being fed to a 4k native monitor)/60Hz
Conversely, the worst issue I had with dual monitors was with Wayland: Wayfire thought it was a brilliant idea to not support "window spanning two monitors" as default policy.
It feels to me like Wayland, GNOME and Systemd all come from the same sort of developer brain infection making them build vast, all-inclusive structures that are explicitly hostile to anyone who doesn't have the exact same underlying assumptions and needs.
Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
XFCE is the one running late here. Gnome, kde, and even all the wlroots based compositors have been pretty solid
If you ignore things like randomly running into screen sharing problems or issues configuring XYZ thing because Gnome or whoever can't be arsed to expose it in their Wayland implementation. I keep trying Wayland and then swapping back to X11. Less issues and I never notice the things Wayland "solves", just what it breaks.
I never notice the things Wayland "solves", just what it breaks.
Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
This? https://gottcode.org/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/
I thought this was just default with XFCE in general
Maybe it's included and just needs enabling https://docs.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin...
Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you ignore things like randomly running into screen sharing problems or issues configuring XYZ thing because Gnome or whoever can't be arsed to expose it in their Wayland implementation. I keep trying Wayland and then swapping back to X11. Less issues and I never notice the things Wayland "solves", just what it breaks.
Indeed. I kept hearing "Wayland solves problems with two monitors at different refresh rates" But when I set up mismatching monitors, X11 didn't skip a beat (1440p native/120Hz, 1440p (being fed to a 4k native monitor)/60Hz Conversely, the worst issue I had with dual monitors was with Wayland: Wayfire thought it was a brilliant idea to not support "window spanning two monitors" as default policy. It feels to me like…
both your monitors are being fed 60hz with x11 then right? It uses the lowest supported value of all screens
Re: XFCE 4.20 Released
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I certainly see a point when people switch to XFCE from Gnome or KDE. But what about if coming from the other side of the spectrum? I think you basically answered it right there. It sits between. For the lxde people it would be more of a full fledged desktop, but not with the full weight of KDE or Gnome.
Thanks! Yeah, I understand that it sort of sits in between. But what are those "additional" features compared to a more spartan DEs? More included apps / accessories? More access to the machine's properties (like, more GUIs for various options)? Something else?
I have not tried LXQt properly or recently but I think both those and lots of applets.