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The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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I'm not super well versed but my understanding is that that's right, with your actual DHT levels being the third variable. There are other non-hormonal causes of hair loss, like alopecia areata, but they're much less common. DHT damages the hair follicles that are sensitive to it, causing them to grow back thinner after each growth and shedding cycle (which is typically a few years). As a result most men don't have v…

It's interesting because there are medicines that can block DHT or reduce it's effectiveness, but they have other negative side-effects. It's almost like if you have this gene and are a healthy man, you should loose your hair - I wonder what the evolutionary mechanism of that is.

The mechanism of baldness is related to the mechanism of growing a beard isn’t it? For me personally I started going bald in my mid-20s, and since then as I lose hair off the top of my head it seems to reappear on my face. So perhaps it’s just a virility/experience signal.

Maybe in the past the fact that someone had survived long enough to go bald or grow a big beard would signal that they had the skill or hardiness to avoid dying young, which might make them more attractive and likely to pass on the gene.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Feels like a bit more body fat would suit him a lot better. The lean look is fine if you're under 25, but at some point you have to admit that it's over. > the way he looked while taking “TRT” looked nothing like a “testosterone replacement dose” but rather like a (mild?) steroid cycle This seems to be common with TRT takers, who tend to have the physique (or some slightly strange-looking approxmation thereof) of a m…

What is over? You should maintain a lean, muscular body for as long as you possibly can.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

I don’t think you understand how down the rabbit hole this guy goes. > Bryan Johnson’s supplements list includes more than 100 compounds taken as powders, tablets, and capsules, designed to support different aspects of his health. This is an insane thing to do and I have delved deeply into supplements myself and it is stunning how hard it is to find evidence that any of them do anything beneficial long term. This mat…

Yeah, you won't find evidence for two decades because of the time and resourcing it would take to fund it, plus none of them being in metabolic wards.

You can sit around and wait for "The Science" or you can be a data point for yourself.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

I like this reasoning. When evaluating if an individual has an eating disorder it is vital that the physician doing the evaluation spend the requisite time imagining various scenarios relating to the gross domestic product of the country they are in, or the earth as a whole

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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> but at some point you have to admit that it's over I am confused by what you mean. Being lean should be a goal throughout life, no?

It should, but you can't expect to be as lean aged 45 as you were aged 20. And if you manage it anyway, you'll probably find (as - in my view - Johnson shows) that you look weird, in a way that you wouldn't have done when you were 20. Regarding how much, I did say "a bit more". I'm not suggesting he should be watching My 600 lb Life for inspiration. 15% body fat, say? Maybe a bit less? Maybe a bit more? I dunno. He c…

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Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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I appreciated reading the author's medical explanations of this guy's physical manifestations.

Hearing this guy receives tons of criticism seems wild to me. "Live forever or die trying" isn't exactly a rare posture. I'd wager it's about as common as "I'm going to die anyways so why bother."

Explore the possibility space. Balance compassion for self and others. Good luck to everyone.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

I don’t think you understand how down the rabbit hole this guy goes. > Bryan Johnson’s supplements list includes more than 100 compounds taken as powders, tablets, and capsules, designed to support different aspects of his health. This is an insane thing to do and I have delved deeply into supplements myself and it is stunning how hard it is to find evidence that any of them do anything beneficial long term. This mat…

There is also big question isn't it is more harm to the system removing its ability to produce what it should produce by itself.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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From the author:

Some of the strategies I employ include:

I put a prime on sleep, diet, and exercise. I optimize my hormones. I downregulate the mTOR pathway. I take pharmaceutical drugs aimed at improving metabolic health. I employ several behavioral, hormonal, and pharmaceutical strategies to delay cancer, atherosclerosis, and neurodegeneration. I cleared my body of (some) senescent cells with senolytic drugs. I monitor dozens of health markers. I take a handful of supplements. I put a prime on my mental health.

This sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.

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