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What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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>Police revealed that finding the 26-year-old was a complete surprise, and that they did not have his name on a list of suspects prior to today So when they said they knew who he was yesterday it was a lie.

Eric Adams doesn't have a strong reality filter, and it's usually good to cross-check things he says, especially if he's the only person saying them. I don't think he consciously makes things up, he just tends to gravitate towards saying things that sound good in the moment. Or, if we're being really charitable, they were chasing the wrong guy.

All you did was make the phrase "makes things up" more palatable. It still means the same thing. He lies.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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With programmers, hackers, computer scientists, systems designers/engineers carrying some of the most privileged skillsets needed for designing and implementing replacements to systems of oppression (and disruptions to said systems), I've been wondering where the ones working to do this can be found.

I learned in Computer Ethics 101 about how the history of the development of radiological machines led to the realization that the ethical path to creating systems for our lives involves stopping using them when they accidentally/repeatedly harm.

I'm looking for different paths than murder to accomplish this. Anyone else want to get together around these ideas to start designing?

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The countless needlessly dead "customers" aren't really happy or unhappy anymore. They're dead.

Wanting to not be dead or miserable in exchange for a company fulfilling their obligations and maybe having billions in profit instead of billions in profit +1 is far from 'unreasonable'.

This CEO was not some faceless cog with no agency. He was someone with real power and control that willingly made decisions that actively severely and often fatally harmed his customers.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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No one here is cheering this person on (as of this posting). Or at least those comments were removed in record time.

>If your reaction is “Oh, but I’m not the CEO!” you’re deluding yourself (at best).

I don't have much of an IRL online presence, so it'd be a helluva a lot harder to plan a retaliation against me than a public figure.

But yes, I live in downtown L.A. It would not be hard at all for me to piss the wrong person off, or simply be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Someone could just as easily saying tech workers are destroying the world.

Something along the lines of how technology dehumanizes and displaces us.

That person could then move to a shack in Montana and start mailing bombs to the engineers and tech workers.

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> Have you ever decided that some of those unhappy customers were unreasonable, or even totally wrong, given all the facts?

Yes. Happens all the time.

AND ... you seem to be implying that all companies are [ethically, morally, practically] the same.

Without taking a position on the shooting, I will tell you this: all companies are not the same. And this particular company seems to be one of the worst, and that too in an arena that directly impacts people's literal lives.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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>have you ever worked for a company that had customers?

Yeah nothing I worked for bankrupted people because they used an out of network surgeon though.

Me refusing to accept a return on some golf shoes without a receipt is not morally equivalent.

I feel safe in that regard.

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