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Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of response from Hetzner is part of what does make it interesting.

It makes it intriguing, not interesting.

I'm a native English speaker but i have no idea what you mean by that since the words are almost synonyms

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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also negative experiences here. if they get a copyright-violation request from someone, they won't contact you about it. they'll just take your server down immediately and ask you to respond. obviously thats not a sane course of action and i cannot recommend using them for any kind of production systems. i am always angry if i see articles about them here on HN because such a vendor should be blacklisted and not prom…

Not my experience as well. They have previously given me 24 hours to respond, or they will remove the server.

That’s hardly any better.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Unsuprising. The crypto validators in the past were the canaries in the coal mine for Hetzner and almost no-one cared when they were cancelled off of Hetzner. Now they terminated your servers and the same has happened to them.

After all, Hetzner is now priotizing shareholder value and is removing smaller customers wasting their compute resources.

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Whenever I ask a CTO if they have a backup (or plan-B) they say we're on AWS, we backup there and they will never go down as a company. And then I ask them what they do when their account gets shut (e.g. because they are selling something bad on Amazon and have the same phone number as the company account?) Or the instance some years ago where GCP closed because someone had wrongly classified image on their drive? Yo…

https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/infrastructure/detail...

Google Cloud accidentally wiped an Australian super[annuation] (pension) fund's entire cloud deployment earlier this year. I think that if you really want durable backups, they have to be reducible to object storage and put in someone else's cloud.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Hang on, Hetzner literally deleted all their data without warning? That’s actually insane and business killing. Both for Hetzner’s reputation and potentially for their customer.

I'm going to review my backup strategy these holidays, and look at how much downtime my services would incur if Hetzner shuts me down.

The reality that they have this power, and that they'd delete data irretrievably, scares me.

Last year I had a misconfigured port on a Docker service, and someone was able to exploit it and run a port scanner. It was during a period that I was away from home, so if I hadn't seen their service abuse emails in time, I could have returned home after a few days to find all my data wiped out (or uptime monitors complaining).

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of response from Hetzner is part of what does make it interesting.

No response usually means it's a legal case.

Or, it's 13:00 on a Monday in Berlin, customer support/PR department just got started and are working through the weekend backlog, haven't had time yet to respond in any reasonable way.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Been seeing a lot of negative posts surrounding experiences with Hetzner of late. Definitely facing issues and losing reputation.

When you ride the cloud/ai hype wave you end up with making fast and not very healthy decisions. Same things happen with other providers so whatever is your choice you must have disaster recovery and replication in place. If you wanna go cheap just make some s3 backups on R2, BackBlaze, Wasabi.

Hetzner was always like that, even before the AI wave. They lowball people with cheap pricing and arguably this attracts a lot of "unwanted" people, so Hetzner always acted strict on such issues.

Last time I used them (pre-2020) they were going as far as requesting customer's ID and rejecting them on the basis of country of origin, and I assume this also includes facial features that may resemble "an average scammer". Obviously this did not happen to European/American IPs so they never faced such issues, and as such this practice was invisible to the world.

I can say for sure OVH and Scaleway would try to negotiate with you before erasing your data - this may have changed over the years.

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