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I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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Hey this is great - just had a look for my mum! Couple of questions (which without watching are hard to answer) - why the modules on the F-Droid App Store and Firefox? As a (young(er!)) Android user I've used neither and would be unlikely to. I can't imagine my mum would use anything other than Play and Chrome, so it feels a little 'too far' for me, confusion for the sake of it? Also a suggestion - pretty much everyo…

Thank you!

Yeah, you are partly right about that (they are not there for confusion's sake).

I just didn't had the stomach to leave those things unmentioned as I'm personally not fond of the monopoly either. So thought to still at least put somewhere at the end. Make some poweruser grandmas:)

Whatsapp, indeed is a good idea, will add that, thanks!

Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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post #20

I genuinely think this is a great thing to offer and very much needed. Great work. Your ffmpeg tutorial also looks really interesting, and I'll definitely be checking that out when I have time. But please consider removing or changing that huge cookie banner on the main page. The amount of people that will simply choose to not interact with the site at all and X out immediately when seeing this might be higher than y…

Thank you so much for your feedback, someone before you already mentioned the cookie banner thing, and I was just working on it. Although can't remove but made it way smaller.

Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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Is there any course about Android "administration"? I mean there are plenty of content on Linux/Windows administration (not programming): partitions, file systems, bootloaders, boot sequence, kernels, init(ialization), processes, shells, users, configuration, application installation and execution, logging, security, etc. How all of the components fit together, what interacts with what, and so on.

When I first got my phone was looking for an Android course which would explain all the above concepts (and more, like what is launcher, how notifications work, what other APIs there are, location, camera, microphone, etc.). But didn't find anything, only found courses/books about application development in Java/Kotlin. I have no interest in Android programming, just want to know how it works.

Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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post #34

Is there any course about Android "administration"? I mean there are plenty of content on Linux/Windows administration (not programming): partitions, file systems, bootloaders, boot sequence, kernels, init(ialization), processes, shells, users, configuration, application installation and execution, logging, security, etc. How all of the components fit together, what interacts with what, and so on. When I first got my…

Hi! I think your best bet would be the developer.android.com documentation.

Although there are code references, most of them explain the concepts in the beginning or inbetween. Just ignore the code parts.

Here is an example for the notifications you mentioned: https://developer.android.com/develop/ui/views/notifications

But you can find info on the other topics in here as well.

Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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The most common problem I encounter is that signing into their email accounts. Google somehow decided to send prompt to the phone even though nothing has changed (same password, IP, computer, browser with cookies). And, my parents have no idea how to find the relevant notification and find the prompt. And, I even take some time because there're like a thousand notifications on their phones.

Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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The most common problem I encounter is that signing into their email accounts. Google somehow decided to send prompt to the phone even though nothing has changed (same password, IP, computer, browser with cookies). And, my parents have no idea how to find the relevant notification and find the prompt. And, I even take some time because there're like a thousand notifications on their phones.

I tried to use the Find My Phone feature with my Samsung account a couple days ago. Log into Samsung with Google, on my friend's device as I've lost my phone, and Google says "we've sent a prompt to your phone to log in"... the phone that I'm trying to find. No alternative options, I just got frustrated and gave up and luckily found it on my own. Still not over how incredibly stupid that was.

Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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I have to wonder if the Anglo-sphere elderly will struggle with your accent. It’s not too strong and I can understand, but for those that may be slightly hard if hearing and have less neuroplasticity maybe it would be an extra hurdle to using the guide.

Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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The most common problem I encounter is that signing into their email accounts. Google somehow decided to send prompt to the phone even though nothing has changed (same password, IP, computer, browser with cookies). And, my parents have no idea how to find the relevant notification and find the prompt. And, I even take some time because there're like a thousand notifications on their phones.

As an alternative you could set up 2FA on their google accounts, and then they can have a 2FA app on their phone (not just google-authenticator, any app you trust can be good).

Then they would have a fixed place where they can find the 2FA code and not to mess around with the notifications. It's more complicated but more robust as well.

Re: I spent a year building an Android course for the elderly

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post #18

This looks like it could be very valuable for quite a lot of people- thank you for making it! Just a couple first impressions from your site... loading it on a phone, the first thing I see is this: https://imgur.com/4maP1vV (1) The entire contents of the site is completely covered by a cookie warning. This is honestly quite annoying even for an SWE like me, never mind your target audience. I know at least one older p…

People should just stop including those warnings. Unless they are a google, FB or some other juicy politically rich target for the EU to make an example of, they are a complete waste of time. Nobody is going to hassle you about it.

Unfortunately, this isn’t true. There is at least one organization out there launching privacy suits to extract settlements from small players.
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