People on HN are so ludicrously out of touch. Yes we all wish we could live in Hackerville and spend all day tweaking config files to customize our ultra fast rendering OSS terminal emulators. In the real world most people are not using terminals for the sake of fooling around with config files, they are trying to accomplish real tasks. For these people, paying for a terminal or using something that is login-gated is completely fine and acceptable if it makes you even 1% more productive. This is Warp's market. If you don't like it, go back to Wezterm or iTerm2 or whatever. Nobody has a gun to your head, those tools will always exist.
Warp terminal – no more login required
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Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#32People on HN are so ludicrously out of touch. Yes we all wish we could live in Hackerville and spend all day tweaking config files to customize our ultra fast rendering OSS terminal emulators. In the real world most people are not using terminals for the sake of fooling around with config files, they are trying to accomplish real tasks. For these people, paying for a terminal or using something that is login-gated is…
> For these people, paying for a terminal or using something that is login-gated is completely fine
Those people don't use a terminal.
Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just like arc web browser i think this is the worst business model
Yeah. "Pay us a recurring fee so we don't make your experience worse" is a business model that flat-out doesn't work with power users, I think. Most of us are old enough to have seen our favorite paid software turn into bloated cloud-based subscription software - we don't want different flavors of the same moldy ice cream. Warp is just something that will, quite honestly, never appeal to me. I don't think the UI is b…
I personally will pay a subscription for literally every piece of software I use if it means the software makes me more productive. On an hourly basis my time is worth more than $100/hr. That means if a subscription tool is $10/month it only needs to save me 6 minutes of time, per month, to make it worth it.
Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#34Warp is still a development tool run by a VC backed company, and history tells us how this will end, despite positive intentions and promises of “we won’t be evil, seriously”. Other terminals are free, open, and more than good enough, why would I use Warp? I’ll pay for good development tools, it’s not about that at all, it’s just that Warp is a… terminal. I pay for JetBrains because it’s that much better than the fre…
I like it and enjoy it right now. I don't have anything locked into it so if it goes to hell, I can go back to iTerm.
Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#35Warp is still a development tool run by a VC backed company, and history tells us how this will end, despite positive intentions and promises of “we won’t be evil, seriously”. Other terminals are free, open, and more than good enough, why would I use Warp? I’ll pay for good development tools, it’s not about that at all, it’s just that Warp is a… terminal. I pay for JetBrains because it’s that much better than the fre…
I like it. I pay for it. I expect it’ll go to shit when the money tap is turned off but I’m enjoying it while I can. I’d rather see a bunch of VC money subsidise destined-to-fail developer tool businesses than… not, because the technical founders of these companies are typically using VC money to pay for things they want to make and at least some of it is open-source. Warp is good, it’s a step up from iterm for peopl…
$25/month is “basically free”?
Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#36For those that have to bounce between Mac and Linux for work/personal reasons, I cannot recommend Kitty terminal enough.
The main thing that's a big of a pain is you'll probably want to set up a scrollback pager (I use neovim as mine but vim works too) so you easily search the terminal output and copy/paste from it.
I use
# https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/719#issuecomment-...
scrollback_pager nvim -u ~/.config/kitty/kitty-scrollback-pager.vimrc -c "silent write! /tmp/kitty_scrollback_buffer | te cat /tmp/kitty_scrollback_buffer -"
and the scrollback pager vimrc:
``` set nonumber nolist showtabline=0 foldcolumn=0" set clipboard+=unnamedplus autocmd TermOpen * normal G map # ^ map q :qa! "silent write! /tmp/kitty_scrollback_buffer | te cat /tmp/kitty_scrollback_buffer - ```
Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#37People on HN are so ludicrously out of touch. Yes we all wish we could live in Hackerville and spend all day tweaking config files to customize our ultra fast rendering OSS terminal emulators. In the real world most people are not using terminals for the sake of fooling around with config files, they are trying to accomplish real tasks. For these people, paying for a terminal or using something that is login-gated is…
Western config takes like 2 seconds. And out of the box it's pretty, easy to use and fast.
Also let's be real. All the default terminals are great and fast enough for typical use cases, the only ones that really care about GPU accelerated terminals are the ones that use editors in the terminal, so they're going to be customizing everything anyway.
Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#38People on HN are so ludicrously out of touch. Yes we all wish we could live in Hackerville and spend all day tweaking config files to customize our ultra fast rendering OSS terminal emulators. In the real world most people are not using terminals for the sake of fooling around with config files, they are trying to accomplish real tasks. For these people, paying for a terminal or using something that is login-gated is…
> For these people, paying for a terminal or using something that is login-gated is completely fine Those people don't use a terminal.
Yes they absolutely do. If you think otherwise you are mistaken - the HN commentariat is not representative.
Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#39I remember seeing this terminal emulator, deciding to give it a shot to see what the deal is, and being asked to sign in. I have never uninstalled a program faster in my life. I think I'll just stick to iTerm.
Just like arc web browser i think this is the worst business model
Terminals don't take much effort to maintain compared to a browser. But most browsers rely on the ad revenue. The business models of the old Opera or Arc feel fresh.
Re: Warp terminal – no more login required
#40People on HN are so ludicrously out of touch. Yes we all wish we could live in Hackerville and spend all day tweaking config files to customize our ultra fast rendering OSS terminal emulators. In the real world most people are not using terminals for the sake of fooling around with config files, they are trying to accomplish real tasks. For these people, paying for a terminal or using something that is login-gated is…
Western config takes like 2 seconds. And out of the box it's pretty, easy to use and fast. Also let's be real. All the default terminals are great and fast enough for typical use cases, the only ones that really care about GPU accelerated terminals are the ones that use editors in the terminal, so they're going to be customizing everything anyway.
Yes, absolutely. I personally use Wezterm. I also use the VS Code built-in terminal pretty heavily. Do I use it out of some ideological hard line against applications that require a login or cost money? No. Would I be open to a terminal application that made my life easier in some ways? Sure. I'm not sure they'll get my money, but it's pretty easy to imagine there would be a market for it.