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Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by jhugo »

sedan_baklazhan wrote: post #14
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is not the planes, but the maintenance requirements for the engines on those planes and Russia cannot do any maintenance due to the sanctions. In general flying in Russia has been a pretty questionable experience since the beginning of the war. Their regulator is still barely functional at this moment and a lot of secrecy is happening. For instance you will find barely any incidents reports any more. We h…

I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years. Of course you're free to make your choices. Anyway, don't overestimate the issue: 2.5% of the fleet seems to be grounded right now.

Hmm, I think you may have just not been paying attention? There was the Superjet that crashed and burned at Lukhovitsy just a few months ago, the A320 that ran out of fuel and landed in the field near Novosibirsk a year ago, the AN26 that crashed in 2021, the Superjet that crashed and burned at Moscow in 2019…

Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by [deleted] »

Etheryte wrote: post #10

Articles like these are a good example that while Russia often tries to downplay or outright deny the sanctions have any effect on them, they do work. This is only one specific example with a specific plane model, but their whole airline industry is facing similar issues on many fronts. Many repairs that used to be business as usual are now either prohibitively expensive or downright impossible due to the sanctions.…

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Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

rtsil wrote: post #29
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Withdraw from Ukraine and sanctions end This will be Europe’s first post-War test of security integrity. My suspicion is it will fail—that Europe as a single force, versus collection of countries crowded on a continent, is an American invention, and without American strength will dissolve divided. But my hope is it will succeed.

There's an argument that the US did everything to prevent Europe from coalescing into a single force and only want Europe to be a single market, not much more, for instance by convincing Eastern European countries to trust their protective umbrella rather than the French-German domination.

> the US did everything to prevent Europe from coalescing into a single force and only want Europe to be a single market, not much more

I mean yes, we did. Western Europe was unifying under Berlin in the 1940s.

> by convincing Eastern European countries to trust their protective umbrella rather than the French-German domination

Militarily speaking, modern Germany is irrelevant. (Partly due to how it’s been managed post-War.) Especially to Eastern Europe, whose security concerns require a nuclear umbrella.

Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by sedan_baklazhan »

dcrazy wrote: post #30
sedan_baklazhan wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>There's a reason why they closed off their stock market That's a completely false information. The stock market isn't closed.

The post you are quoting did not say they closed the stock market. They said they “closed off” the stock market, which implies denying access to certain classes of investors. That said, I’m not finding anything about Russia prohibiting foreign investment, but I am finding a lot about sanctions prohibiting dollar and Euro investment in Russia.

I have an investor account and I know for sure the stock market isn't closed.

Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by jdalgetty »

At this point, what would Russia have to do to get back onside with the rest of the world? Obviously, ending the conflict with Ukraine is the first step, but what else would they need to do? How long would it take for them to get out of the doghouse, so to speak?

Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

loeg wrote: post #16

Great to see sanctions working. Withdraw from Ukraine and sanctions end.

> and sanctions end

Source on that? No documented cases in history of U.S. sanctions ever ending.

(Which is why from a game theoretic point of view the only winning move is import substitution, not kowtowing to whatever terrorist demands.)

Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by jhugo »

sedan_baklazhan wrote: post #35
dcrazy wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post you are quoting did not say they closed the stock market. They said they “closed off” the stock market, which implies denying access to certain classes of investors. That said, I’m not finding anything about Russia prohibiting foreign investment, but I am finding a lot about sanctions prohibiting dollar and Euro investment in Russia.

I have an investor account and I know for sure the stock market isn't closed.

“Closed off” means “restricted access to”. It doesn’t mean “closed”. I have no idea what restrictions the parent was referring to, but they weren’t saying that the stock market shut down.

Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by sedan_baklazhan »

hammock wrote: post #26
slater wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is a ~95% seat occupancy considered bad...?

Counterintuitively, yes, because air travel is a Cournot good and you grow/make money by expanding supply (more planes), which they can’t

Which they can, because Russia produces aircraft domestically.

Re: Half of Russia's A320/A321neo Fleet Grounded Amid Engine Issues and Sanctions

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

sedan_baklazhan wrote: post #14
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is not the planes, but the maintenance requirements for the engines on those planes and Russia cannot do any maintenance due to the sanctions. In general flying in Russia has been a pretty questionable experience since the beginning of the war. Their regulator is still barely functional at this moment and a lot of secrecy is happening. For instance you will find barely any incidents reports any more. We h…

I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years. Of course you're free to make your choices. Anyway, don't overestimate the issue: 2.5% of the fleet seems to be grounded right now.

> I haven't heard of any accidents in civilian air traffic in Russia in last few years.

Not very hard, now that reports are no longer publicly available. Prior to 2022 you would still find that information on avherald and other places. That said, even with the little amount of information going out, in the last 5 years alone Russia had at least 8 hull losses with more than 80 fatalities.

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