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How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by stavros »

maccard wrote: post #23

As much as I hate it, I think Confluence is the right choice for startups. (Or Github Wiki if you can stomach it). It's free to start, and you get 10 users. By the time you have 10 people who need access, (and you can export PDF's of pages if you have one off sharing to do) you pay $50/mo. If you have 10 employees $50/mo is pocket lint.

My problem with Confluence is that I want a wiki primarily to be able to find information, and secondarily to store information, and I can never find anything in Confluence. The search function seems to be optimized for maximum frustration.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by movedx »

Fabricio20 wrote: post #28

I tried to run Wiki.js in the past but it's really buggy and has a lot of spinners/loading pages for what is supposed to be simple html pages so i've been looking for a good self-hosted alternative since. I love how there are so many options in the HN comments, and some of them look really good as well, however I still struggle to believe that none of them are self-contained. All of them require a a redis container,…

MediaWiki. Is there something wrong with the solution powering Wikipedia? It’s very simple to set up, and you can one-click deploy it on DigitalOcean for $10/month.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by movedx »

stavros wrote: post #31
maccard wrote: post #23

As much as I hate it, I think Confluence is the right choice for startups. (Or Github Wiki if you can stomach it). It's free to start, and you get 10 users. By the time you have 10 people who need access, (and you can export PDF's of pages if you have one off sharing to do) you pay $50/mo. If you have 10 employees $50/mo is pocket lint.

My problem with Confluence is that I want a wiki primarily to be able to find information, and secondarily to store information, and I can never find anything in Confluence. The search function seems to be optimized for maximum frustration.

Agreed. Overall I find Confluence an anti-pattern and just obnoxious.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by movedx »

snozolli wrote: post #22

you’ll need to increase the resources to atleast "Atleast" isn't a word. I looked at wiki.js and I don't understand why you wouldn't just install Mediawiki. It only takes a few minutes and wiki.js doesn't look any more sophisticated at a glance.

I agree. MediaWiki is a solid solution and is very easy to setup. You can one-click deploy on DigitalOcean for $10/month and just enable daily snapshots. You can even use a managed DB if you want.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by tomxor »

I've stuck with Git based markdown wikis. Nice thing is that when the web app you were relying on enevitably dies the data format is portable.

Currently using Gitea's built in per-repo wiki as a general wiki after we migrated from Gitlab to self hosted Gitea. As a bonus there's no maintenance burden, Gitea itself has super low maintenance burden, single portable binary (I use an APT repo), single config. Latency of Navigating Gitea is also instant by comparison to Gitlab which was driving us nuts it's so slow.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by maccard »

stavros wrote: post #31
maccard wrote: post #23

As much as I hate it, I think Confluence is the right choice for startups. (Or Github Wiki if you can stomach it). It's free to start, and you get 10 users. By the time you have 10 people who need access, (and you can export PDF's of pages if you have one off sharing to do) you pay $50/mo. If you have 10 employees $50/mo is pocket lint.

My problem with Confluence is that I want a wiki primarily to be able to find information, and secondarily to store information, and I can never find anything in Confluence. The search function seems to be optimized for maximum frustration.

I completely agree with you. I’ve literally searched for page titles and had confluence tell me there’s no results found.

I’ve found this problem exists (even though it’s worse with confluence) no matter what you use, and the solution is a better hierarchy

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by stavros »

maccard wrote: post #36
stavros wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My problem with Confluence is that I want a wiki primarily to be able to find information, and secondarily to store information, and I can never find anything in Confluence. The search function seems to be optimized for maximum frustration.

I completely agree with you. I’ve literally searched for page titles and had confluence tell me there’s no results found. I’ve found this problem exists (even though it’s worse with confluence) no matter what you use, and the solution is a better hierarchy

I cannot for a minute believe that search over a few hundreds/thousands of documents is anything less than a solved problem these days. Confluence is another level of bad, but I'm sure some software does search well.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by bawolff »

HeckFeck wrote: post #20
quintin wrote: post #16

Why not use Wikipedia's software? Is it too cumbersome?

MediaWiki on a VPS is comfy. Installation is easy. Plus you get to make the original wiki skin the default for the authentic wiki experience.

Alas, the actual original skin doesn't get much use anymore (the one at https://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePage )

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by crabmusket »

Fabricio20 wrote: post #28

I tried to run Wiki.js in the past but it's really buggy and has a lot of spinners/loading pages for what is supposed to be simple html pages so i've been looking for a good self-hosted alternative since. I love how there are so many options in the HN comments, and some of them look really good as well, however I still struggle to believe that none of them are self-contained. All of them require a a redis container,…

You're looking for Dokuwiki. It doesn't even need a database; pages are stored as plain text files on disk. Its appearance is a little dated, but it seems to work very well.
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