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#32
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Density has hurt walkability?

I have no specific experience with Waterloo, but sometimes towers follow a Corbusian ideal of a tower surrounded by nothing; or worse, a tower surrounded by high-speed roads/highway — essentially a stacked bedroom community with no walkable amenities.

FWIW, I live in the region and disagree with OP's characterization of "serious decline" and "most people have left".

I went to school here from 2003-2008, moved away and moved back in 2011.

The area's population has increased by ~20% since 2012 (~the death of RIM, according to its stock price). In 2011, it got regional train service to Toronto. In 2019, it got a local light rail train.

The university area that the OP seems to be referring to is, IMO, more walkable and bikeable now than before. Some of the towers are mixed use, with ground floor retail.

The city is definitely quite different from the early 2000s, though.

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Some nice nostalgia for me -In high school we walked to that exact KFC for lunch and would discuss the previous nights antics playing StarCraft broodwar. -I used to fix computers (professionally) at a store on the same street as that gas station as an after high school job -In Dec/jan 2010 I worked 18 hours a day laying floors in the new RIM buildings at Philip/Colombia. A friend’s dad did a lot of the furniture movi…

The wild thing about the condo boom in Waterloo is 77% of units are owned by investors. It truly exemplifies the mess that is the housing market. Rentors can't break into it and homeowners are doubling, tripling up on properties.

That's a lot of SW Ontario now. I've moved back to the US due to the high costs of the GTA, but a lot of my friends in Toronto own multiple condos.

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The world needs a driving licence for email. It would mandatorily include use of plain-text and bottom-posting.

> bottom-posting Immediate and indefinite suspension of email license.

A: Because it messes up the order of things.

Q: Why is top posting bad?

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#36
I don't know why these articles (and many comments here) always make it sound as if the people replying were idiots. For many, or I'd rather say most in this case, it's clear that they know exactly what they're doing - having some fun given the opportunity that presented itself.

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Some nice nostalgia for me -In high school we walked to that exact KFC for lunch and would discuss the previous nights antics playing StarCraft broodwar. -I used to fix computers (professionally) at a store on the same street as that gas station as an after high school job -In Dec/jan 2010 I worked 18 hours a day laying floors in the new RIM buildings at Philip/Colombia. A friend’s dad did a lot of the furniture movi…

I was in the area around 2010 working for someone else. Adding to your bullet points:

- The pool business near the single-digit RIM buildings had more business than they could do. Many folks wanted swimming pools at their homes.

- Various eateries such as the sandwich shop mentioned in the article made decent money during the height of Blackberry.

- People skipped starter homes and bought single houses as their first homes. Some real estate agents waited outside of some buildings during bonus was announced.

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post #3

The world needs a driving licence for email. It would mandatorily include use of plain-text and bottom-posting.

I used to think the same but I caved when I started using web interface email clients. Let’s face it, the world has moved on, new generations are online, and we are the wrong ones now.

> I caved when I started using web interface email clients

It's one of the things I like about Gmail. It does plain-text and bottom quoting just fine.

> Let’s face it, the world has moved on, new generations are online, and we are the wrong ones now.

NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!

https://mygeekwisdom.com/2014/03/15/never-give-up-never-surr...

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That random “J” at the end of the messages brings me back to mail circa 2010. As I recall, iOS also didn’t render Outlook’s smileys right, leaving a bunch of Js in mail from my Mom. (For the ones who ‘missed’ it: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20060523-10/?p=31... )

for a long time, I thought people were just really into giving me a single letter nickname

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#40

This happens often enough (even MS itself broke their internal Exchange servers). And every story seems to end with admins having to improvise. Am curious: (why) isn’t there a “kill reply-all chain” button as a feature? (The article explains that this didn’t work for RIM because of BB’s architecture, but for Exchange?)

In theory, mail should be stateless, so what would they use to do that? Some clients and servers understand headers for thread identifiers, and then it would be possible to (in theory) zap that id, but all it takes is one client not supporting it for that to be out the window. The article kind of points this out - Exchange had a mitigation, but the clients got the notification and were able to reply because by then the mail was on the client (pushed).
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