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Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by dannyr »

colinplamondon wrote: post #12
Karunamon wrote: post #3

Despicable. That's really the only polite word I have for both Apple's actions, and the current state of our patent system.

Compare Android to Windows Phone, Android tablets to the Surface, and the Lumia to the Galaxy Nexus. Google and their partners could have taken the high road and created their own take on what a touch screen phone OS is, but instead they took the low road and did a wholesale look and feel copy and paste job of iOS to get scale. Copying look and feel isn't actual wrongdoing, but it's certainly not the high road. Now A…

Yeah. Look at the notifications. Android blatantly copied it from the IPhone. #sarcasm

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Post by mladenkovacevic »

colinplamondon wrote: post #12
Karunamon wrote: post #3

Despicable. That's really the only polite word I have for both Apple's actions, and the current state of our patent system.

Compare Android to Windows Phone, Android tablets to the Surface, and the Lumia to the Galaxy Nexus. Google and their partners could have taken the high road and created their own take on what a touch screen phone OS is, but instead they took the low road and did a wholesale look and feel copy and paste job of iOS to get scale. Copying look and feel isn't actual wrongdoing, but it's certainly not the high road. Now A…

>>but instead they took the low road and did a wholesale look and feel copy and paste job of iOS to get scale.You take this as a fact instead of a subjective opinion of few that it really is. I've never seen anyone mistake an Android for an iPhone. The user-experience is entirely different and different people like both for different reasons. Also I don't think copying "look and feel" is how you build scale... maybe a cheaper, poorer quality alternative that sells on the down-low in some guerrilla market.. but definitely not a viable competitor that scales faster than the originator of that "look and feel"

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Post by mharmon14 »

Irreparable harm seems to imply that this could hurt Apple in a major way.

But it's easy to see what game-changing technology is. Look at what people want in a phone:

http://mashable.com/2011/10/03/iphone-5-wish-list-starts-wit....

There's tens of similar surveys published online. None of them include "search-as-u-go". In fact Apple doesn't seem to think that it's that big enough of a deal to promote. They advertise tens of features & this isn't one of them. And that's because it's expected (everyone uses it already) or it's not that important to a buyer when choosing a phone to purchase.

It's just not reasonable to assume that the "search-as-u-go" technology could give any sort of significant advantage to Samsung to be the cause of a shift in market share or something with similarly "unascertainable" consequences, which is precisely what the ruling of irreparable damage relies on.

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Post by arpit »

scarmig wrote: post #11

Sigh. I've been planning on getting a new notebook and was leaning toward one of Apple's products... but this has shifted me away. I know, I know: no one cares about nerd ideologies. But I'll do my part and lower their monthly revenues by 0.00001%.

I am adding to that 0.00001%. Ciao Apple

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Post by sbuk »

angryasian wrote: post #22
colinplamondon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compare Android to Windows Phone, Android tablets to the Surface, and the Lumia to the Galaxy Nexus. Google and their partners could have taken the high road and created their own take on what a touch screen phone OS is, but instead they took the low road and did a wholesale look and feel copy and paste job of iOS to get scale. Copying look and feel isn't actual wrongdoing, but it's certainly not the high road. Now A…

If we're comparing current iterations. Android now looks nothing like ios and in actuality ios is looking more like android. Adding polish and bigger icons for touch to existing ui was all Apple did. Objectively look back at early Blackberry and Nokia phones. Where they they completely innovated on was multitouch and getting rid of the stylus.

"Yeah, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by eagsalazar »

colinplamondon wrote: post #12
Karunamon wrote: post #3

Despicable. That's really the only polite word I have for both Apple's actions, and the current state of our patent system.

Compare Android to Windows Phone, Android tablets to the Surface, and the Lumia to the Galaxy Nexus. Google and their partners could have taken the high road and created their own take on what a touch screen phone OS is, but instead they took the low road and did a wholesale look and feel copy and paste job of iOS to get scale. Copying look and feel isn't actual wrongdoing, but it's certainly not the high road. Now A…

Dear delusional apple fanboi,

Apple didn't invent their interface and there was nothing particularly innovative about it except: the concept of an app store and the integrity of doing a very very good job.

Google also did many things with Android that were totally revolutionary and unprecedented (security model, intents, notification area...) many of which Apple has completely ripped off wholesale.

I'm not saying there wasn't influence and some stealing both ways, but please let go of this notion that Android is a copy of iOS and that only Google is guilty. It is just incorrect.

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Post by rbranson »

davedx wrote: post #29
vibrunazo wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same for me. Been looking to replace my dell notebook and was looking into the Macbook Air with ubuntu as the alternative. Was just comparing prices and specs on the Apple's website last week. I used to think Apple's success was great for us consumers because it's more choice, and competition is why companies are innovating in the first place, right? But this latest injunction made me realize, if I give money to Appl…

I'm planning on buying a second hand Macbook Air. Best of both worlds, right?

Not likely. The second hand market, which you will be sustaining, is part of why Apple can demand higher prices and make higher margins.

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Post by berberous »

berberous wrote: post #4

anyone have a link to the order? I want to read it.

I pulled it from PACER, in case anyone is curious:

Order granting injunction: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49113/Order%20granting%20injunction...

Order denying motion to stay: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49113/Order%20denying%20motion%20to...

I really wish more news sources would post these primary source materials along with their stories. I've only ever seen WSJ do it for big cases.

Re: Galaxy Nexus ban remains, Apple posts $95.6M bond, Google stops selling

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Post by ericb »

wissler wrote: post #9

Please let this case turn into a hideous disaster, so that the patent system is revealed to the public at large as the hideous disaster it is. Many a small company's dreams have been quietly smothered by this patent system; the public only starts to care if something nasty happens to a big corporation.

It needs to go the other way for the public to get it. A grand unveiling of a gee-whiz apple project that everyone obsesses about having, only to be denied because of a frivolous patent.
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