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Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by LaffertyDev »

submeta wrote: post #23

I had ordered an M3 Max 14 inches with 48GB, 1TB, with 16-Core CPU, 40-Core GPU. When I picked up the device last week, the sales person told me I had the right to return it within 14 days because the M4 models were to be released soon. I had paid almost 4600 EUR for that. Today I happily ordered the M4 Max with 64 GB with otherwise same specs for 4600 EUR!!! Yay! Will return the other device happily. Thanks @Apple f…

This is me. My wife's old intel air was finally getting slow enough she was willing to replace it. Ordered a 2023 M3 Pro for her on Monday (that was even on sale!) knowing the refund window was ~2 weeks. Today, ordered a 2024 M4 Pro for the same price and better specs. (M3Pro, 512GB, 18GB ram -> M4Pro, 512GB, 24GB ram).

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by dialup_sounds »

exabrial wrote: post #7

Why aren't they benching it against the M3?

The customer base on M1 is larger and more likely to be interested in upgrading. The M1 Air was only discontinued in March and is still for sale through Walmart and Costco. Not to mention the resale market created by all the people that moved to M2 and M3. There are tons of M1s out there. It is probably the most relevant comparison they could make, even though we're accustomed to seeing previous-gen benchmarks on everything.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by gandalfgreybeer »

coffeeindex wrote: post #2

Meanwhile my M1 is still a racehorse for 90% of my use cases

I doubt I'll upgrade anytime soon, but at this rate when I do need to, I feel like I'm just going to get a Max because of how happy I've been with the base M1 Pro (just upgraded the RAM a step).

That is if I don't just suddenly decide to replace the batteries (relatively cheap from the apple authorized store compared to a full upgrade).

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by grahamj »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #9

I'm happy that Apple continues to push forward, but I suspect my M1 Max from 2021 will last me a decade or more. It's just a beast of a machine. I hope they're also working on redesigning the MacBook Pro to feature a display without a notch. I'd buy that instantly.

Yep. I moved from an M1 Air to M2 MBP but only for RAM and creature comforts (size, display, sound etc.)

Even on the fanless Air performance was more than enough for the moderate dev work I threw at it.

iPhones have been more powerful than they needed to be for years; it's great to see this phenomenon in Macs.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by alexjplant »

wwalexander wrote: post #14
mostlysimilar wrote: post #9

I'm happy that Apple continues to push forward, but I suspect my M1 Max from 2021 will last me a decade or more. It's just a beast of a machine. I hope they're also working on redesigning the MacBook Pro to feature a display without a notch. I'd buy that instantly.

Seriously, I keep waiting for the FOMO to kick in but the M1 is still so great that I don’t have any. The only hiccups I ever have are resolving Swift result builder types…perhaps SwiftUI is just a big ploy to burn up all the extra CPU cycles.

I held onto my M1 Air for almost 4 years and only upgraded because the LCD somehow developed some random screen-dooring issues. It was always completely capable for what I needed though I do appreciate the additional real estate afforded by its 15" M3 replacement.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by grahamj »

kgwgk wrote: post #20
exabrial wrote: post #7

Why aren't they benching it against the M3?

- less impressive results - most people don't care because they're not contemplating upgrading after one year - those who care will find the benchmarks elsewhere

I like the M1 comparisons. They got some free improvements from the x86 -> ARM transition but everything past that is on them, so it's interesting to see how far they've come.

But that aside I agree it feels like marketing slime to tout improvements over 3 gens ago. At least include comparisons to last gen. Preferably with numbers on the chart.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

What’s the case for new MacBook Pros? The design hasn’t changed since the M1 as far as I know, and maybe even earlier with the x86 Retina display MacBook Pro. These minor specification changes don’t make real life use much better. When will Apple do a bigger redesign?

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by sliken »

exabrial wrote: post #7

Why aren't they benching it against the M3?

Sadly these days it's a waste to upgrade a single generation. There's very few workloads that work poorly on gen x-1 and work well on gen x.

So while frustrating to people that want to geek out on the tiny details, the real market for Apple is people not using Apple silicon and maybe the M1 users. Upgrading from M2 or M3 isn't worth it. Thus the comparisons with Intel Macs and M1s.

Re: Apple Introduces M4 Pro and M4 Max

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Post by Gigachad »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21
mostlysimilar wrote: post #9

I'm happy that Apple continues to push forward, but I suspect my M1 Max from 2021 will last me a decade or more. It's just a beast of a machine. I hope they're also working on redesigning the MacBook Pro to feature a display without a notch. I'd buy that instantly.

> I suspect my M1 Max from 2021 will last me a decade or more I’m still happy on my 2020 M1 normie MacBook Pro.

I had one of those for work, recently got one of the newer MacBooks and the performance feels the same to me. Both were flawless.

What did change is almost everything else. Much better speakers, more ports, more external displays, no Touch Bar and probably some other stuff I forgot. Not worth buying a new laptop over though.

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