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Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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I'm not sure this will actually end up changing much because of how they've carved out exceptions for refillable or rechargeable devices. I don't vape nicotine but I occasionally buy a disposable THC vape, and nearly every one of them is technically rechargeable despite the fact that the charge generally lasts the life of the cartridge and there's no use for it afterwards. I wouldn't be surprised if UK vape vendors simply make minor changes to be compliant without really changing the product.

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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If they're anything like the US, even though sales to children are banned, kids still get their hands on it. I have a family member who works directly with children and they constantly find kids vaping in the restrooms. At some point adults are distributing vapes to children despite the legality. If the most modulatable link in the supply chain is sales to adults who then distribute to children, that's unfortunately…

>Sucks to give people a chance and then be shown why we were wrong. Is this just clumsy wording or a dog whistle for how you think society ought to be structured? Because if the latter I take serious issue with the implied assumptions about the relationship between the government and the people. Yeah, smoking is bad and vaping is only a little better but it's a pretty mild problem as far as societal ills go, adults a…

Vaping is significantly better.

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

#34
I've never vaped (/smoked/done drugs/etc I'm v boring) but can someone ELI5 why disposable vapes have been the preference?

Don't you just buy the capsules and put them into your regarchable vape? Or if you want to get exotic e liquid. I would assume that's much cheaper than buying a whole device each time much must cost more $$/££.

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There's a huge difference between restricting people's right to defend themselves and their right to purchase shitty single use electronics that slowly kill them

If untrained people try to defend themselves with a pocket knife they are more likely to hurt themselves.

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can’t believe that making a small consumer electronic device was legal?

That's a bit of a mischaracterisation of the point OP was making. It is a small consumer device with a battery, that only lasts a few days and is then tossed out. That should never have been legal in the first place.

Plenty of children's toys are just as bad. All those musical toys/books you see: most of them do not have replaceable batteries - or the battery is replaceable but the retail price of the batteries is more than the whole toy (you can get sketchy batteries from the usual sketchy places for cheaper)

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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I’m a UK vaper (former smoker) and while I’m sure I’m going to find this annoying (disposables are helpful in a pinch when your proper vape has run out of battery or liquid), it’s clearly the right thing to do. The e-waste involved in that sub-industry must be absolutely horrifying. Tens of millions of tiny little batteries, surrounded in plastic, lingering quantities of nicotine-rich liquids… Glad this is happening.…

*vapist

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a huge difference between restricting people's right to defend themselves and their right to purchase shitty single use electronics that slowly kill them

If untrained people try to defend themselves with a pocket knife they are more likely to hurt themselves.

Even a trained person. A pocket knife is better than nothing, but not by much. Meanwhile a knife is a useful tool in a lot of situations.

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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post #34

I've never vaped (/smoked/done drugs/etc I'm v boring) but can someone ELI5 why disposable vapes have been the preference? Don't you just buy the capsules and put them into your regarchable vape? Or if you want to get exotic e liquid. I would assume that's much cheaper than buying a whole device each time much must cost more $$/££.

On box mods(the big vapes you might recall starting to see 10-15 years ago) there is a chamber up top you have to manually fill with nicotine. This can be a bit annoying to do but the real problem is remembering to bring liquid to refill with.

That’s really the only negative to the large box mods, other than having to recharge 18650 batteries all the time. But disposables are usually much smaller(easier to hide if you’re in school), use nicotine salts(which are much more potent) and they usually last a long time - sometimes 20k hits. So these aren’t “bad” products, they have a lot of selling points.

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