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Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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In the past two days, the official Syncthing Android client has been discontinued, making the use of KeePass harder. Bitwarden has been trying to move away from a fully FOSS system. And now this?

Turns out living the FOSS dream is kind of hard.

it's not FOSS or not. Basically, who owns it or who pays for it. People have interest and people need earnings to live. Business is business.

Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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In the past two days, the official Syncthing Android client has been discontinued, making the use of KeePass harder. Bitwarden has been trying to move away from a fully FOSS system. And now this?

A fork of syncthing had been in development and released for a while though, so use of keepass isn't really getting harder unless this developer also pull the plug. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncth...

Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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This is such a great application. I feel like it's complete already and would be happy if it just continued to exist without much or any maintenance.

Consumer softwares in the current environment can probably only live a few years at most (if you count security in, probably months) without maintenance. The author's decision to pull it from play store is very sensible and should be appreciated.

Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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post #22

This is actually a better outcome than finding out one day the app have a serious security problem. While i like `pass` and that Android app looked really good, this is just not serious. Because the fact that most people will end up trusting a random app as their password manager because it has 2k star on Github is crazy. If you want to use `pass` on Android you should tinker something with termux .

The point of `pass` is to offload the security aspect to gpg, so unless something goes wrong with that, I don't believe continued use, even if unmaintained, is very insecure.

The Android app will by necessity receive the decrypted passwords from GPG to display and copy them to the clipboard. It could do whatever else it wants with them.

Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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This is such a great application. I feel like it's complete already and would be happy if it just continued to exist without much or any maintenance.

There is always need for maintenance on Android.

That maintenance can be relatively minimal if you aren't distributing the app through the playstore. Like once per n android release.

Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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I worry a lot about password managers on mobile. Such as: * if an app has a single developer (keepassium? strongbox?), how much money would it take them to add a back door? 1M USD? 10M USD? Let’s say they are exceptionally honest, and won’t take money. How about threats to their lives or families? * if an app has a small number of engineers with commit access (bitwarden? 1paasword?) could any one of them be compromis…

> Or maybe not? This. It is just slightly more difficult and longer to target it in a large company because you usually have to actually be hired by that company and do not necessarily have the choice of the team/products you will be working on. But adding backdoors and vuln, yes totally possible on random products that person would be affected to. There is review fatigue the same way there is fatigue in a lot of pro…

> It is just slightly more difficult and longer to target it in a large company because you usually have to actually be hired by that company and do not necessarily have the choice of the team/products you will be working on.

There are lots of examples at almost all the fortune 500. Because they do not sneak in as just some random employee.

Cisco is very well known for backdoors in their equipment.

Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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In the past two days, the official Syncthing Android client has been discontinued, making the use of KeePass harder. Bitwarden has been trying to move away from a fully FOSS system. And now this?

At least the Play Store version has: https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing-android/issues/2064 But isn't https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.nutomic.syncthingandroid... still being kept up-to-date?

I switched to f-droid at least, remember to Backup your config before uninstalling the Play Store version.

Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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I worry a lot about password managers on mobile. Such as: * if an app has a single developer (keepassium? strongbox?), how much money would it take them to add a back door? 1M USD? 10M USD? Let’s say they are exceptionally honest, and won’t take money. How about threats to their lives or families? * if an app has a small number of engineers with commit access (bitwarden? 1paasword?) could any one of them be compromis…

I would tend to trust Apple more as they define attack vectors and mitigations in their platform security guide. Also they have a holistic approach to this from hardware through to software, not just an app tacked crudely onto whatever APIs were lying around.

I would NOT trust Microsoft though. I've had enough problems with Authenticator and so have other users in our org that I refuse to put data near it. Not concerned so much about other people getting access to it but me losing my data.

Re: Android "Password Store" client for pass discontinued

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> add a back door? What's your threat model here? Some kind of mass hacking attempt? It would be easier to attack the service providers, rather than steal legitimate logins. A targeted attack on a specific person? It would be easier to, as the famous XKCD suggests, drug and/or hit them with a wrench until they voluntarily hand over whatever information you want. It's difficult to conceive of a situation where hacking…

Isn’t it the same threat model as Lastpass breach? Login credentials seem to be worth money, and crypto keys even more.

The comment was referring to Keepassium and Strongbox, which do not store credentials on their servers so it's not exactly the same. While conceivably a compromised Keepass wrapper could decrypt and send the dump of each and every file it opens, I doubt it would pass unnoticed.
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