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Re: Accountability sinks

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When I was a grad student in STS I was considering doing a project on how software can function as an "agency adjuster" where individuals come to bear the risks of something (generally an economic transaction) and the majority of the profits go to the owner of the software. In many ways Uber & related services are about allowing individuals to take on very low-probability high-acuity downside risk for a small fee.

I think this sort of analysis is valid and fruitful in a very general sense. Software as a recently adopted vehicle in a long tradition of liability displacement / diffusion of responsibility / agency modification

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author is describing a specific phenomena different from shared accountability.

I disagree with the authors definition of accountability: > The fundamental law of accountability: the extent to which you are able to change a decision is precisely the extent to which you can be accountable for it, and vice versa. No. You can absolutely be accountable for something that you can’t change a decision about. Simple example: You’re a branding agency and you decide to rename X to Y. (No pun intended). Th…

It's much like the distinction between responsibility and blame. At least in English, it seems like a lot of different meanings often get blurred together.

At its root, responsibility is about who responds, rather than who causes.

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Organizations exist to remove moral culpability Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at nigh…

“The blood of the First Men still flows in the veins of the Starks, and we hold to the belief that the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. If you would take a man's life, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die.”

certainly draws some impractical inspiration. I wrote that years ago, before I ever read ASOIAF

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Organizations exist to remove moral culpability Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at nigh…

The right to a trial by jury was specifically meant to prevent personal bias from the judge affecting the outcome of the trial. Letting juries perform executions and judges be responsible for the imprisonment of the guilty just creates a massive perverse incentive for sadistic individuals. You wrongly assume that either judge or jury would be more empathetic if they were burdened with the weight of these things. Inst…

not just the moral piece, but the passive nature. Once I do this, then it goes to the next person. I don't need wait for the taxpayer to come by and demand ransom for my work to send money off to the capital so they can fund wars in far away lands, it just comes right out of my paycheque

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This article seems to redefine the word "accountability". In the first sentence: > In The Unaccountability Machine, Dan Davies argues that organizations form “accountability sinks,” structures that absorb or obscure the consequences of a decision such that no one can be held directly accountable for it. Why not just call it "no-consequence sinks"? It's somewhat of an oxymoron to say "accountability" isn't working bec…

Sounds like you perfectly understood the article. I don't get what you're complaining about. You agree but don't like the language?

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>> In The Unaccountability Machine, Dan Davies argues that organizations form “accountability sinks,” structures that absorb or obscure the consequences of a decision such that no one can be held directly accountable for it.

Government and Civil Servant are the biggest example. I guess its time to re-watch "Yes Minister".

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I find that the word "accountability" almost always obscures what's being talked about. If we remove it, we can instead talk about understanding and feedback:

As organizations become more complex, it's difficult to understand the consequences of many high-level decisions. Unless great effort is made to gather feedback, it won't happen.

Not only that: the lack of immediate, human communication results in one-way feedback mechanisms, like suggestion boxes and surveys. Many companies clearly want to make this work, because we're constantly prompted and sometimes paid to fill out surveys. But the result is survey fatigue.

The person giving feedback needs to be reassured (by people, not machines) that their feedback matters, or they won't be bothered to do it. Often, it's socially awkward to give negative feedback, so people don't. And often, the employees directly on the scene have incentive to encourage customers to avoid negativity when they fill out surveys.

One way to show that feedback matters is to respond to complaints with some sort of assistance. In the example in the article, that's a voucher. Perhaps somewhere in the organization, that voucher counts as a cost, but it's pretty unsatisfying.

In some organizations, managers are encouraged to work at the support desk occasionally as a more immediate way to understand what's going on. (I remember reading about how Craig Newmark would do this for his website.)

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>> In The Unaccountability Machine, Dan Davies argues that organizations form “accountability sinks,” structures that absorb or obscure the consequences of a decision such that no one can be held directly accountable for it. Government and Civil Servant are the biggest example. I guess its time to re-watch "Yes Minister".

That is a problem of organisation size, not so much whether the organisation is private or public.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author is describing a specific phenomena different from shared accountability.

I disagree with the authors definition of accountability: > The fundamental law of accountability: the extent to which you are able to change a decision is precisely the extent to which you can be accountable for it, and vice versa. No. You can absolutely be accountable for something that you can’t change a decision about. Simple example: You’re a branding agency and you decide to rename X to Y. (No pun intended). Th…

Replace the word "change" to "make" and it may be more intuitive
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