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Cisco’s cloud vision: Mandatory, monetized, and killed at their discretion

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Re: Cisco’s cloud vision: Mandatory, monetized, and killed at their discretion

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Post by bugmenot »

pwelch wrote: post #10
driverdan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The N16 is a good piece of hardware. I've been running one with DD-WRT for a while.

Same here. The N16 with DD-WRT is an awesome setup. However, I just moved and got FiOS and have a ticket in to avoid using their crappy router/modem you are forced to use. Also, if you are in the market for an upgrade, my friend showed me the new Asus RT-N66u. I likey n16 but the new one has a faster CPU and more RAM.

is this possible? I have FIOS and would prefer not using any vendor gear in my network. Trust no one.

Verizon needs to get away from needing a coax port on the router.

Re: Cisco’s cloud vision: Mandatory, monetized, and killed at their discretion

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Post by te_chris »

unimpressive wrote: post #25

>"The Terms and Conditions of using the Cisco Connect Cloud state that Cisco may unilaterally shut down your account if finds that you have used the service for “obscene, pornographic, or offensive purposes, to infringe another’s rights, including but not limited to any intellectual property rights, or… to violate, or encourage any conduct that would violate any applicable law or regulation or give rise to civil or c…

I'd hate to see what would happen if you torrented porn.

Re: Cisco’s cloud vision: Mandatory, monetized, and killed at their discretion

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Post by rhubarbquid »

agwa wrote: post #21

This has been implemented in a totally boneheaded fashion with the forced update and onerous privacy policy, but it's not necessarily a bad concept. Router interfaces are clunky, inconsistent, and not very user-friendly, but they're hard to improve because they're quite constrained by the limited resources on the router and the difficulty of pushing out firmware updates. If the UI were in the cloud it would be easier…

> difficulty of pushing out firmware updates

They've obviously already solved that problem... this article is about an update that was automatically installed. It wasn't part of a "cloud service" when they bought it.

Re: Cisco’s cloud vision: Mandatory, monetized, and killed at their discretion

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Post by wmf »

unimpressive wrote: post #25

>"The Terms and Conditions of using the Cisco Connect Cloud state that Cisco may unilaterally shut down your account if finds that you have used the service for “obscene, pornographic, or offensive purposes, to infringe another’s rights, including but not limited to any intellectual property rights, or… to violate, or encourage any conduct that would violate any applicable law or regulation or give rise to civil or c…

It's not clear that the router itself is considered part of the service, so maybe they would only brick your router if you transmit porn through their servers.

And I think those terms have been removed anyway.

Re: Cisco’s cloud vision: Mandatory, monetized, and killed at their discretion

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Post by AYBABTME »

pattern wrote: post #9
j_s wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't miss the previous discussion of Jeff's post here on Hacker News for more details and alternatives: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4127393

I did indeed follow both the discussion here and the comments on his post closely! I wasted/spent a good 6+ hours reading about all kinds of router features that I had didn't know existed, or never even thought possible (VLANs, VPN, NFS, CIFS, Captive Portal, router CPU overclocking, etc). Some versions of Tomato (Shibby's firmware [1] in particular) allow the router to act as a BitTorrent client! I'm sure it's old n…

I have an ASUS RT-N16 router at home, which I connected to a hard-drive by USB. Then with Tomato installed, you can SSH into the router and install optware. Then you can configure optware[1] to install its packages on the external hard-drive. From there, you can retrieve and install a bunch of packages, like http servers, bittorrent clients and whatever else you feel like running from the CLI. Pretty convenient! I installed Transmission with a web-gui and I can SSH into it from anywhere in the world to my house's router, load a magnet or torrent in the queue and when I get home, the content will be waiting for me on my hard-drive.

I don't pretend Tomato firmware are the first to allow to do so, but I just found it was an interesting and usefull thing.

[1] http://tomatousb.org/tut:optware-installation

Re: Cisco’s cloud vision: Mandatory, monetized, and killed at their discretion

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Post by whatusername »

SoftwareMaven wrote: post #15

If this had been done correctly, it probably would have been a great boon for the average person. It would have allowed Cisco's tech support to more easily address problems users are having and allowed Cisco to keep software up to date. Unfortunately, Cisco decided to see how well they could "monetize" (gads, I hate that word!) it: - Create a "marketplace" for features built into many routers? Check! - Sell people's…

Google trends says demand for "IOS APPS" is through the roof. Lets capitalize on this trend now!
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