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Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

timeon wrote: post #29
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bread is getting a bad name, yet whole civilisations have been founded on it. However, modern supermarket bread is quite different to what people were eating even 100 years ago. We've selected for wheat with very high gluten levels as it makes for fluffier bread and we've started adding wheat to almost everything as it's cheap. It's very frustrating to go to a shop and see that products that traditionally don't hav…

> onion bhajis, potato fries These kind of foods should be home made. Wheat is lesser issue with them. Even simpler foods like garlic-paste, if bought ready-made in store it contains lot's of unnecessary ingredients. People buy junk food (pre-made meal) and blame wheat.

That's one advantage to being gluten sensitive - I don't bother buying those kinds of things now and generally just cook from simpler ingredients.

It is annoying to go out to a fancy restaurant and find that they use wheat based tortillas rather than authentic corn - you'd expect them to be making things themselves rather than just buying them from a shop.

Just thought of another one - Thai-style fishcakes (e.g. in restaurants). Why are they covered in breadcrumbs when Thai food hardly ever uses wheat?

Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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Post by anonymous344 »

davzie wrote: post #24
jim-jim-jim wrote: post #8

I've been looking for relief from abdominal pain, bloating, poorly formed movements, and breathing problems for well over a year now. It started right after a round of antibiotics, which strikes me as a very clear cause-and-effect situation involving some sort of microbial imbalance. I don't think restrictive diets are a great idea, because I want to stay healthy otherwise and ultimately restore that balance, but cur…

I also went through this for 6 years. A guy on YouTube will help called Pain Free You. Recent studies suggest bad bacteria can continue to flourish if we are chronically stressed (which symptoms like this easily cause). Huge correlation between stress and flare ups for me. In the short term whilst you work on the mind-body aspect, I recommend taking Digestive Enzymes with each meal along with a Betain HCL + Pepsin su…

Did you fixed yourself with these? Did you try probiotics (90% of them are shit) Did you try fasting ? how about milk-gluten-sugar free diet?

Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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Post by davzie »

anonymous344 wrote: post #33
davzie wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also went through this for 6 years. A guy on YouTube will help called Pain Free You. Recent studies suggest bad bacteria can continue to flourish if we are chronically stressed (which symptoms like this easily cause). Huge correlation between stress and flare ups for me. In the short term whilst you work on the mind-body aspect, I recommend taking Digestive Enzymes with each meal along with a Betain HCL + Pepsin su…

Did you fixed yourself with these? Did you try probiotics (90% of them are shit) Did you try fasting ? how about milk-gluten-sugar free diet?

I tried probiotics, tonnes of different types, none of them worked, most made it worse.

I tried fasting, a few days eating nothing and drinking only water with a bit of salt. It doesn't really work. The bacteria go into hibernation mode until you start eating again.

I don't drink milk anymore and I tried a low FODMAP diet. The latter helped, but I found it so hard to keep up and it was stressful.

I had every diagnostic under the sun. Chest xrays, stool samples, hydrogen methane breath tests (hydrogen positive). I am 99% convinced it was all caused by stress and the antibiotics I took was the straw that broke the camels back.

Stress triggers flight or fight mode. Chronic stress means you're always in this state which means your body isn't producing the digestive enzymes and stomach acid it needs to maintain correct bacteria levels since you don't need to digest food when you're being chased by a metaphorical tiger, better use that energy to run away instead.

The only probiotic I haven't tried that I would like to try is Symprove which is a refrigerated one that was recommended to me by quite a few pharmacists.

Once I am fully confident my stress levels are very low and I've learnt to manage them I will start to wean off the supplements and see if I get a recurrence of symptoms. I'm not yet fully cured but most importantly I'm on the right track.

Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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Post by anonymous344 »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #15

> But doctors never definitively diagnosed Johnson with celiac disease. His doctors wanted to do a biopsy to get a definite answer, but that would require eating gluten again, something Johnson wasn’t willing to chance. How about this for an app idea? Does this already exist? Use the app to record all the food consumed. Use AI to read restaurant menus, cereal boxes, ect. Give the user a survey every 1 hour. Make eati…

I've had this web app about 15-20 years ago, until the tech got obselete. It was popular, yet little bit more simpler Now I saw that somebody made similiar app...but without proper execution.. If you make one, please don't focus on automating photo taking and that stuff, but the simple ui + simple results

Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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Post by gwervc »

Theodores wrote: post #18
jim-jim-jim wrote: post #8

I've been looking for relief from abdominal pain, bloating, poorly formed movements, and breathing problems for well over a year now. It started right after a round of antibiotics, which strikes me as a very clear cause-and-effect situation involving some sort of microbial imbalance. I don't think restrictive diets are a great idea, because I want to stay healthy otherwise and ultimately restore that balance, but cur…

I am not sure what to make about the increasing amount of people with a real or an imagined gluten intolerance. By imagined, I mean someone that has a generally unhealthy diet, for them to not see the doctor, but decide for themselves that wheat is the enemy, rather than the garbage they have in their sandwich, in their burger or on their pizza. Bread is getting a bad name, yet whole civilisations have been founded o…

> Bread is getting a bad name, yet whole civilisations have been founded on it.

The idea cereals are bad for health is at least 2 millenia old: https://www.persee.fr/doc/etchi_0755-5857_1983_num_1_1_993

Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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raverbashing wrote: post #9

Yes People in developed countries have very little knowledge of parasitic diseases (ok, maybe only of tick-bourne diseases) You wouldn't need Dr House to diagnose tape worm in a lot of less developed countries.

actually... our civilised country don't have these infections if you are not an traveller to poor country. so the doctors don't know anything, no medicine available or even accepted to sell. Only few doctors in whole country who has diagnosed these

Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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Post by dsign »

> Dr. Leo Galland, a doctor of internal medicine, describes people like Anders Johnson as having a non-celiac gluten intolerance from chronic giardiasis.

I would describe Anders Johnson (probably a PhD by now) as a responsible and smart young man. It's your body, you must take care of it.

Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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Post by anonymous344 »

davzie wrote: post #34
anonymous344 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you fixed yourself with these? Did you try probiotics (90% of them are shit) Did you try fasting ? how about milk-gluten-sugar free diet?

I tried probiotics, tonnes of different types, none of them worked, most made it worse. I tried fasting, a few days eating nothing and drinking only water with a bit of salt. It doesn't really work. The bacteria go into hibernation mode until you start eating again. I don't drink milk anymore and I tried a low FODMAP diet. The latter helped, but I found it so hard to keep up and it was stressful. I had every diagnost…

Thank you. I'm also on this road. Stress, and inflammation in the body. What helped me was extra hemp-protein powder, forest-berries (=prebiotic) and keeping away from milk, gluten, oat, sugar, alcohol, CITRIC-ACID (this is everywhere! and if you google it, you find that it is causing brain fog like hangover) And quite a lot of C-vitamin. keeping down the inflammation with tea made from ginger, tumeric and other herbs. Now found out that it can be leaky-gut, and started taking slippery-elm to protect+fix the gut lining. _Should_ also chew the food slowly, but that's not possible usually

Re: Medical student's apparent celiac disease responded to giardiasis treatment

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Post by davzie »

anonymous344 wrote: post #39
davzie wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried probiotics, tonnes of different types, none of them worked, most made it worse. I tried fasting, a few days eating nothing and drinking only water with a bit of salt. It doesn't really work. The bacteria go into hibernation mode until you start eating again. I don't drink milk anymore and I tried a low FODMAP diet. The latter helped, but I found it so hard to keep up and it was stressful. I had every diagnost…

Thank you. I'm also on this road. Stress, and inflammation in the body. What helped me was extra hemp-protein powder, forest-berries (=prebiotic) and keeping away from milk, gluten, oat, sugar, alcohol, CITRIC-ACID (this is everywhere! and if you google it, you find that it is causing brain fog like hangover) And quite a lot of C-vitamin. keeping down the inflammation with tea made from ginger, tumeric and other herb…

Congratulations on finding stuff that's worked for you! I recognise a lot of similar things that I've tried to cut out or introduce. The body can heal, it's great at that, I think doing all this stuff can help give it the space to do so. I used to think alcohol helped (Gin) and was "killing" the bad bacteria off. But I actually think it just chilled me the fuck out for an evening. Good luck on your journey, we're going to make it! :D
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