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Re: Response to DHH

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Post by legitster »

ankleturtle wrote: post #27
legitster wrote: post #24

> I was surprised someone as smart as DHH would fall for WP Engine’s lame deferral to make this about “GPL code” or forking, rather than trademarks. We have no problem with their use of GPL code, our beef is with their trademark abuse. Ah yes, defending trademarks. Really the rallying cry of the people. That's what everyone cares about here. Nice motte and bailey you have there. Also, Matt is not even reading Ruby on…

Matt made a post a few weeks ago about his charitable donations.[0] It's really just a "I'm better than them" post. And it doesn't say where any of it was donated. 0. https://ma.tt/2024/09/charitable-contributions/

That's exactly what I was referring to.

For all we know these are self-dealing tax write-offs to his own foundation. The one that is currently doing dirty work for his private business.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by mirzap »

I have no idea what is the point of this article.

> Looks like ~943k lines of code, 143k from Basecamp org. Automattic publishes 6.58M lines of open source code, 6.9x more than you. Yet, we’re “doing open source dirty”?

Whaaat! Since when is LoC metric of “dirtiness”? Your hostility towards community Matt is what makes you and Automattic “dirty”, your toxic leadership.

Matt is clearly having a mental breakdown. I hope investors force him out.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by legitster »

GiorgioG wrote: post #6

Rich people arguing on the internet. We've only got one life to live, it's just not worth the time to follow this soap opera.

Counterpoint, nearly half of the internet uses WordPress. Learning that it's fully under the control of a vindictive techbro who is showing an ability and willingness to damage large swaths of the internet at a time is kinda a big deal.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by pathartl »

legitster wrote: post #33
GiorgioG wrote: post #6

Rich people arguing on the internet. We've only got one life to live, it's just not worth the time to follow this soap opera.

Counterpoint, nearly half of the internet uses WordPress. Learning that it's fully under the control of a vindictive techbro who is showing an ability and willingness to damage large swaths of the internet at a time is kinda a big deal.

The recent forking of Advanced Custom Fields is just a smoking gun for where his priorities actually lie. Matt is part of a small group of people who have made a significant amount of wealth from an open source project. The project itself, however, has stagnated over the past 10 years. The community's reliance on plugins like ACF is a complete failure of the development of core more than it is the tyranny of private investment.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by slenk »

wglb wrote: post #13

Suggesting that DHH should seek therapy is way out of line. > I’m unsure why you felt you had to insert yourself into this fight with Silver Lake / WP Engine and take their side, but here we are. It seems that the fight has been made public with photomatt's constant commentary, at least on HN. Unconvincing.

The instant I saw that I stopped reading. Matt does not seem like a great person.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by hluska »

polotics wrote: post #28
hluska wrote: post #18

Saying nothing is always an option. It’s too bad that Automattic won’t consider that option because over the last 24 hours this has gone from embarrassing to nasty. I didn’t expect a supply chain attack yesterday. And sure didn’t expect Mullenweg’s reply to DHH to be so childish.

Childish? Really? I read Matt's post as modern incivility, very grown-up nasty, one thin layer of fainted respectable sounding wordage wrapping extremely rude barbs.

I think that most of us are more interested in value created than value personally captured.

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by znpy »

This is starting to get clownish.

At this point I wonder when will Matt Mullenweg will start closing wordpress.com account owned by people that don't align with his opinions.

There already is a checkbox to check for people affiliated in any way with wpengine, i wouldn't be surprised to see a checkbox for a field like "i agree with our lord an savior Matt Mullenweg in the WordPress vs WPEngine case".

Re: Response to DHH

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Post by nikolay »

minimaxir wrote: post #3

> Rails, finally some open source! Looks like ~943k lines of code, 143k from Basecamp org. Automattic publishes 6.58M lines of open source code, 6.9x more than you. Yet, we’re “doing open source dirty”? Wait, did he just use lines of code as a success metric unironically?

Keep in mind that PHP is way more verbose and LOC-hungry than Ruby! So, to compare apples to apples, you need to device the PHP LOCs by at least 2!
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