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AMD's Turin: 5th Gen EPYC Launched

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Re: AMD's Turin: 5th Gen EPYC Launched

#32

Here I am running a 12 year old Dell PowerEdge with dual Xeons.. I wonder when the first gen Epyc servers will be cheap fodder on eBay.

1-3rd gen Epycs can be had super cheap, but the motherboards are expensive.

Also not worth getting anything less than 3rd gen unless you're primarily buying them for the pcie lanes and ram capacity - a regular current gen consumer CPU with half - a quarter of the core count will outperform them in compute while consuming significantly less power.

Re: AMD's Turin: 5th Gen EPYC Launched

#35
post #30

I'd like to see the 9965 in action. These parts are crazy. Will definitely be looking to buy a machine from this generation. https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/server/epyc/9005-...

I wonder how this compares to the 7950x3d. So much cache and a high boost clock. https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/server/epyc/9005-...

Re: AMD's Turin: 5th Gen EPYC Launched

#36
post #25

At 1:11 in the video, there's a chart of the TDP (which I looked for in the text but couldn't find). At 125-500W, these things run very hot.

https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/AMD-... Has the full range with TDP. 500w is only for the 128/192 monster chips. The 16 core fast sku has a 320W TDP.

The 7950x3D is rated at 120w TDP. 320w seems quite high.

Re: AMD's Turin: 5th Gen EPYC Launched

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Civ 6 really doesn't utilize cores as much as one would think. I mean it'll spread the load across a lot of threads, sure, but it never seems to actually... use them much? E.g. I just ran the Gathering Storm expansion AI benchmark (late game map completely full of civs and units - basically worst case for CPU requirements and best case for eating up the multicore performance) on a 7950X 16 core CPU and it rarely peak…

> 16 core CPU and it rarely peaked over 30% utilization, often averaging ~25%. 30% utilization means a 6 core part (barring frequency/cache differences) should be able to eat that at 80% load. As a rule I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the stuff Civ 6 is doing can't be parallelized at all, but then for that remaining 10% you get a 16x speedup with 16 cores. And they're underutilized on average but there are bursts w…

If only 10% of the workload can be parallelized, then the best case parallelization speed up is only 10%. That doesn’t line up with the GP’s claim that Civ6 benefits from more cores.

Re: AMD's Turin: 5th Gen EPYC Launched

#38
post #25

At 1:11 in the video, there's a chart of the TDP (which I looked for in the text but couldn't find). At 125-500W, these things run very hot.

https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/AMD-... Has the full range with TDP. 500w is only for the 128/192 monster chips. The 16 core fast sku has a 320W TDP.

> 500w is only for... 128/196 chips. The 16 core fast sku has a 320W TDP.

When you think about it. 180W more for 7x threads is amazing

Re: AMD's Turin: 5th Gen EPYC Launched

#39
post #34

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Naples, Rome, Milan, Genoa, and Turin are just cities in Italy; I'm not sure what's childish about that. They have to use something for codenames.

The criticism is about "EPYC" not about the codenames. That brand name has been used since 2017 but if you don't know that, it sounds quite gamery nowadays.

Admittedly I also have no idea why Intel calls theirs Xeon, which sounds like misspelled xenon. But then it might be a proper Greek word?

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