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South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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Re: South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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Figure I'd pull an arbitrary quote from Han Kang for this. Translated obviously > “There is none of us whom life regards with any partiality. Sleet falls as she walks these streets, holding this knowledge inside her. Sleet that leaves cheeks and eyebrows heavy with moisture. Everything passes.” - Han Kang

Is there a better, and actually insightful quote from her that we should know about? Because this is the sort of writing you'd expect from an emo 6th grader, not a Nobel prize winner. "Life isn't fair, nothing lasts forever" isn't exactly genius level stuff.

>> "There is none of us whom life regards with any partiality."

That means the opposite of "Life isn't fair". Partiality - unfair bias in favor of one thing or person compared with another; favoritism.

She's written, in that quote, that life is fair.

Re: South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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I don't think that has anything to do with the continent. People like Haruki Murakami and Liu Cixin have achieved immense reader-bases with their English translations.

I read both and the style is tedious, especially the dialogues, and I can only assume it's a translation thing.

Have to agree, 3 body problem is fascinating from technological future fantasy perspective, but high quality reading overall in English it was not. Shallow characters, very pro-china and anti-whole-western-world black&white mindset that modern free world grew away long time ago.

Had to force myself reading to the end of trilogy, above goes into overdrive.

Re: South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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Figure I'd pull an arbitrary quote from Han Kang for this. Translated obviously > “There is none of us whom life regards with any partiality. Sleet falls as she walks these streets, holding this knowledge inside her. Sleet that leaves cheeks and eyebrows heavy with moisture. Everything passes.” - Han Kang

its very sad that asian prose translates so terribly into english

And vice versa. So many English works translated to Korean read like chewing sand.

It doesn't help that books don't sell well in Korea and translators are poorly paid. Often you can literally see "Oh the original English word must be X, because it doesn't make sense and the translator just used the more popular meaning of the word!"

Re: South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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I think the Nobels, especially in the arts, have lost their relevance, similar to the Michelin restaurant awards and the Oscars for film. We now know they're from a select group (of Norwegians in this case) with certain tastes no more noteworthy or transcendent than any of ours. The world has too much culture and achievement today to be marked by one group of awards like this per year. We have "Oscar bait," but I thi…

I enjoy Oscar bait films and Michelin star restaurants. Oscar bait film season (winter) is the main season I look forward to going to to the movies, not summer (blockbuster season). But it's not some attack on mainstream culture just because there are awards for niche/elite/artsy/etc culture. Similarly, just because the Nobel for literature goes to a niche literary author you don't know/like doesn't demean whatever y…

They tend to be awarded only to works treating depressing subjects. Or to authors in depressing situations.

When was the last time an Oscar or a literature prize (Nobel but not only) has been awarded to something funny?

Re: South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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I think the Nobels, especially in the arts, have lost their relevance, similar to the Michelin restaurant awards and the Oscars for film. We now know they're from a select group (of Norwegians in this case) with certain tastes no more noteworthy or transcendent than any of ours. The world has too much culture and achievement today to be marked by one group of awards like this per year. We have "Oscar bait," but I thi…

> We now know they're from a select group (of Norwegians in this case) with certain tastes no more noteworthy or transcendent than any of ours. Only the nobel peace prize is handed out by Norway. What would you consider an example of nobel bait?

Bob Dylan?

Re: South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a better, and actually insightful quote from her that we should know about? Because this is the sort of writing you'd expect from an emo 6th grader, not a Nobel prize winner. "Life isn't fair, nothing lasts forever" isn't exactly genius level stuff.

>> "There is none of us whom life regards with any partiality." That means the opposite of "Life isn't fair". Partiality - unfair bias in favor of one thing or person compared with another; favoritism. She's written, in that quote, that life is fair.

Life is inherently unfair because you don't get to choose the circumstances in which you are born. Sure, you can argue that after that point the universe doesn't give a crap about you, but the starting point matters more than anything else. That's why I regard her quote as surface level and childish.

Re: South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "There is none of us whom life regards with any partiality." That means the opposite of "Life isn't fair". Partiality - unfair bias in favor of one thing or person compared with another; favoritism. She's written, in that quote, that life is fair.

Life is inherently unfair because you don't get to choose the circumstances in which you are born. Sure, you can argue that after that point the universe doesn't give a crap about you, but the starting point matters more than anything else. That's why I regard her quote as surface level and childish.

The point is that it goes equally for everyone. No one gets to choose the circumstances they're born into.

Re: South Korean Author Han Kang Wins Nobel Prize

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Figure I'd pull an arbitrary quote from Han Kang for this. Translated obviously > “There is none of us whom life regards with any partiality. Sleet falls as she walks these streets, holding this knowledge inside her. Sleet that leaves cheeks and eyebrows heavy with moisture. Everything passes.” - Han Kang

Is there a better, and actually insightful quote from her that we should know about? Because this is the sort of writing you'd expect from an emo 6th grader, not a Nobel prize winner. "Life isn't fair, nothing lasts forever" isn't exactly genius level stuff.

I don't think she is best known for a beautiful, insightful writing styles. To understand this case better, you probably want to understand the modern history of S. Korea, especially the connection between her book "Human acts" and the Gwangju massacre.

EDIT: Actually Nobel Committee's bibliography does a good job on her works.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2024/bio-biblio...

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