Earlier quoted context omitted.
Referer (misspelled in the spec) has been a part of HTTP from day 1.
Feels crazy this isn’t disabled by default
This is part of the web DNA. Pages linking pages and being aware about it. Origin can still disable it.
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Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Referer (misspelled in the spec) has been a part of HTTP from day 1.
Feels crazy this isn’t disabled by default
There is little hope to get it disabled when an ad company is running running the most popular ad platf... Erm, the world wide web browser.
Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah it has been for a while. The steam deck runs Linux out of the box. Valve and open source devs have put a lot of effort over the years on projects like Photon which is a translation layer for Windows games.
The question was "better on Linux on a Mac ", meaning specifically Asahi Linux. The correct answer is no, not yet anyway. Linux running on x86 with proton is still the bee's knees for most games though.
> on a Mac
Right. It sounds like the Asahi devs have implemented APIs which aren’t available under stock MacOS.
Back when I was actively developing for Freespace, we had a Linux port that had a better framerate than Windows (the game’s original platform).
Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux
#34I noticed the URL was updated for this post. Previously it linked to asahilinux.org which showed an anti-HN manifesto from the HN referral. Curious as I haven’t seen this before. Seems it has been covered by previous commenters: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36227103
The manifesto is longer than the content...
Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Referer (misspelled in the spec) has been a part of HTTP from day 1.
Feels crazy this isn’t disabled by default
See[1] the Referrer-Policy header, , and .
But generally, webmasters have found it useful to know who caused their server to fall over^W^W^W^W^W^W is linking to their pages. This was even used as a predecessor to pingbacks once upon a time, but turned out to be too spammable (yes, even more so than pingbacks).
After the HN operators started adding rel=noreferrer to links to the Asahi Linux website, Marcan responded[2] by excluding anyone who has the HN submit form in their browser history, which feels like a legitimate attack on the browser’s security model—I don’t know how it’d be possible to do that. (Cross-origin isolation is supposed to prevent cross-site tracking of this exact kind, and concerns about such privacy violations are why SRI has not been turned into a caching mechanism along the lines of Want-Content-Digest, and so on and so forth.) ETA: This is no longer in place, it seems.
[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...
[2] https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110503331622393719
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Feels crazy this isn’t disabled by default
There is little hope to get it disabled when an ad company is running running the most popular ad platf... Erm, the world wide web browser.
The Referrer-Policy header lets a server tell the browser how much referrer information to pass on when following links, all the way down to nothing at all if desired. Chrome does respect that, and they also followed other browsers in changing the default to "strict-origin-when-cross-origin" a few years ago which truncates the referrer path when leaving to a different domain, so they only see the domain the visitor came from rather than the specific page like they used to. Can't really fault Google in this case.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...
Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux
#37From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done! It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux. A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on P…
Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux
#38From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done! It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux. A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on P…
I'm not sure if you know. But Alyssa, the person who basically wrote almost the entire userspace opengl and vulkan driver, works at valve.
Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Referer (misspelled in the spec) has been a part of HTTP from day 1.
Feels crazy this isn’t disabled by default
Referer does have legitimate uses. For example, back in the day people would use it to detect if someone embedded an image from their site on another site. SomethingAwful famously used to respond to any such requests with goatse, and forums I was on had very strict "don't link to SA images" rules as a result.
I think that using referer to try to deliver manifestos to users of another site is kinda childish, but so it goes. Every tool can be put to good or bad uses.
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#40Where's the real inspiration for Asahi, Fandaniel in FFXIV?
> Asahi means “rising sun” in Japanese, and it is also the name of an apple cultivar. 旭りんご (asahi ringo) is what we know as the McIntosh Apple, the apple variety that gave the Mac its name.