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Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

#31
So this is basically a result of the DEA forcing eBay to enforce a ban on pill presses for them?

I hate how the government has basically been deputizing internet companies to enforce laws and regulations for them. If the DEA had done this themselves you could appeal it, ask your congressperson for help, or take them to court, but as long as their actions get laundered through a private company, the rights of the affected citizens disappear.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

#35
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's an antique pill press sold in August. That same listing was flagged three times by their bot because of policy around pill presses and molds, ending in a permaban.

That flag three times is also after it was delisted. So flagged once, and then flagged twice more after it was gone. Must have been enormously frustrating to remove a listing and keep getting warnings about the same, removed item. I can’t understand this from a data processing point of view. Surely the flag database tracks that an item was already flagged and removed, in order to avoid duplicates.

'is_deleted' in the db while AI crawls everything all the time including those?

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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post #2

I don't know if there are comments or not since I don't have a Twitter... but did she get banned because that's a pill press? Is it a pill press, I'm only guessing.

"eBay to Pay $59 Million to Settle Controlled Substances Act Allegations Related to Pill Presses Sold Through Its Website" https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/02/01/ebay-pay-59-mi... Just to be clear, I'm not saying this justifies the response. I'm just clarifying what may have prompted this serious over-reaction by ebay.

>Also, if you're going to give someone a lifetime ban for some keywords that AI picks up in a listing title, GIVE YOUR USERS A RED TEXT WARNING BEFORE THEY LIST IT TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE!

>They do that for BB guns and other items with WAY fewer consequences if you mess up!!

She has a point though. If it's illegal, why even let it get listed in the first place? Why not just give the seller a warning during the listing process?

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

#37
post #27

Some people is these threads wrote as if the item was "delisted". This is what she wrote: "I listed it in July and it sold in August." It was not delisted. It was sold. EBay had opportunity to delist a "pill press" before she sold it, or even warn her before she listed it, but chose not to. They seem then to have chosen the worst, most unempathetic response, and then to double down repeatedly.

eBay could have also easily detected the keywords during the listing process and prevented the listing from going live.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

#38

Why is a pill press a problem? Are people not allowed the freedom and bodily autonomy to make pills for themselves?

it's regulated as part of the illicit drug supply chain. you can own a pill press just as you can a firearm, as long as you register it and follow the rules.

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Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

#39
post #29

Any more details besides one tweet and some manual machine from the 1800s?

It's a thread; if you're not logged into Twitter then you only see the one tweet without context. (It wasn't like this before. Thanks, Elon.)

You can replace "x.com" in URLs like this with "xcancel.com" or "nitter.poast.org" to get around this.

Re: Cassie LaBelle: "eBay completely destroyed my life"

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post #23
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"eBay to Pay $59 Million to Settle Controlled Substances Act Allegations Related to Pill Presses Sold Through Its Website" https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/02/01/ebay-pay-59-mi... Just to be clear, I'm not saying this justifies the response. I'm just clarifying what may have prompted this serious over-reaction by ebay.

pill press is a pill press... antique and broken does not mean it can not still be fixed. So, yes. I see the point of eBay too. But reading the messages, I am confused it the listing got removed or not. She got several temporary bans for the same listing, and never listed it again; so I can only assume it was closed (not removed?).

like she said:

>Also, if you're going to give someone a lifetime ban for some keywords that AI picks up in a listing title, GIVE YOUR USERS A RED TEXT WARNING BEFORE THEY LIST IT TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE! >They do that for BB guns and other items with WAY fewer consequences if you mess up!!

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