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Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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> good luck running banking apps without Google SafetyNet. Doesn't most banks have a mobile version of their website. Maybe not the best but it could be a good compromise.

Here in Europe you cannot login to bank websites without the bank app on your phone for 2FA codes

Where in Europe? Everywhere on the continent? Certainly not in Sweden where I live. The major banks here use 2FA but not mandated to a mobile app.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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> good luck running banking apps without Google SafetyNet. Doesn't most banks have a mobile version of their website. Maybe not the best but it could be a good compromise.

Here in Europe you cannot login to bank websites without the bank app on your phone for 2FA codes

Why don't they use a third party authenticator instead?

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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> good luck running banking apps without Google SafetyNet. Doesn't most banks have a mobile version of their website. Maybe not the best but it could be a good compromise.

Most banks here in Europe require Mobile apps to login into their website.

So the EU attempts to invade your privacy using smartphones [1] and forces duopoly-brand smartphones upon its citizens, yet it fails to compel Apple to allow true sideloading, so you're stuck choosing between "no freedom but some privacy" or "no privacy but some freedom"? Their digital policy initiatives overall seem like a net loss for EU citizens as it stands.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/19/24181214/eu-chat-control

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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post #26

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Here in Europe you cannot login to bank websites without the bank app on your phone for 2FA codes

Where in Europe? Everywhere on the continent? Certainly not in Sweden where I live. The major banks here use 2FA but not mandated to a mobile app.

Not in Poland either. Pretty much every bank has also SMS 2FA available.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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Apparently Sailfish is using libhybris.

I looked at the libhybris page and a few other sources, but am unsure how much of Android is implied when using libhybris. Random person on Internet claimed it is a minimal, but complete, Android user space install, but my reading of the libhybris page doesn't seem to imply that. The libhybris page does imply some of Android user space. A (probably out of date) Android kernel with all the OOT binary blob drivers Android is famous for, seems like it would also be a requirement.

Am I misunderstanding how bad this is? Or, is Sailfish rather than being a real alternative to Android just helping to entrench the terrible situation with Android Linux kernels?

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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> good luck running banking apps without Google SafetyNet. Doesn't most banks have a mobile version of their website. Maybe not the best but it could be a good compromise.

Most banks here in Europe require Mobile apps to login into their website.

As far as I have evidence, that is not true in Germany. I have accounts with three banks, and all of them can be managed with SMS 2FA and web access.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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'world domination' not possible with "Sorry not available in your country".

I have worked Sailfish before, so I know what to expect. while a great OS, it is hard to compete with the established market. even the inclusion of libhybris won't change that... as in that case, why not just buy an Android device. unfortunately privacy is a niche to tailor to

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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> good luck running banking apps without Google SafetyNet. Doesn't most banks have a mobile version of their website. Maybe not the best but it could be a good compromise.

If you want to go in and do the basics (check balance, do a normal transfer, look at activity) this can get you by. A lot of the more useful features tend to be app only though. E.g. "scan to deposit check" is an app only item for my bank.

You got a cheque? How quaint. I haven't used one in almost 2 decades. (Australia) in fact when telstra refunded me $2.50 by cheque I simply threw it away.

This has to be a predominantly American problem, right?

I cannot imagine a cohort of Australian, Asian, New Zealand, British and European continental users noping out of an app because not cheque enabled.

Re: Sailfish Mobile OS

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I wish it was feasible to have alternative mobile systems, but it's not really. You can't simply give up every popular app for a system nobody else uses or develops for. Sailfish has Android emulation, but good luck running banking apps without Google SafetyNet. Even pure Android ROMs, like LineageOS, can't do that. Also good luck with proprietary firmware for mobile networking and cameras. Another thing that usually…

Does it have good messaging and maps? That’s 90% of my phone usage. I don’t do banking on my phone.
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