Anybody who's actually looked into this topic beyond reading someone else's theories and nodding in agreement knows the answer to this question. If the documentary is worth it's salt that will be it's answer as well. No other person who would've been connected to cypherpunk and cryptography groups at that time fits the bill better, and he fits it basically perfectly. I'm sure other early contributors also knew this, which is why https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/black-ops-of-tcpip-2011...
Mystery creator of Bitcoin identified, new HBO documentary claims
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The actual (new) content of this article can be summarized as "TV special soon to be released", which is not an intellectually interesting story. Perhaps the show itself will contain interesting information, and if so, the community may find something to discuss about it then. On HN, there's no harm in waiting. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
There's also the aspect that Satoshi speculation is one of the most-trodden topics in HN history, so a new story has a pretty high bar to clear to count as interesting.
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#34Anybody who has the skills to identify the creator of Bitcoin would not sit on it waiting for an HBO documentary. I'm guessing they're just going to say Hal Finney without any new evidence. Safer than saying Szabo who could push back since he's alive.
Adam Back. Ever notice how anytime anyone mentions his name as possibly being satoshi they get buried? Not a coincidence. Plus Adam had no work history during the dates that Bitcoin was created. Had created the system that bitcoin is based on and never produced the emails of him and Satoshi that supposedly existed. Remember the first email from Satoshi mentions he got "your email from Adam Back". Google also manipula…
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Users flagged the post correctly, since the article doesn't actually include the critical bit of information that it's dangling. The actual (new) content of this article can be summarized as "TV special soon to be released", which is not an intellectually interesting story. Perhaps the show itself will contain interesting information, and if so, the community may find something to discuss about it then. On HN, there'…
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#36If you're on the edge of your seat, let me dispense with the suspense: Len Sassaman. Anybody who's actually looked into this topic beyond reading someone else's theories and nodding in agreement knows the answer to this question. If the documentary is worth it's salt that will be it's answer as well. No other person who would've been connected to cypherpunk and cryptography groups at that time fits the bill better, a…
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Qanon had several phases. The original Q was probably a 4chan LARP. The "insider LARP" is a fairly established genre on 4chan, Reddit, and other places. Then it seems that actual propagandists of some kind took it over and turned it into a weaponized conspiracy ARG for Trump and the alt-right. Then it was kicked off 4chan and from there probably ended up in the hands of the 8chan people or someone connected to them.…
The earliest form of a QAnon style narrative being advanced in the public was from Steve Pieczenik, who has a deep intelligence background (involved with the Aldo Moro kidnapping), who was talking about a white hat coup on Alex Jones's show (another source that glows in and of itself) in 2015, a full year before the first Pizzagate drops. I highly doubt it was started as a "LARP" by people who didn't already have dee…
I do think the move to 8chan probably coincided with at least one ARG-jacking. The 4chan "trip code" thing Q was using on 4chan is a joke security-wise but the move to 8chan had no hand-off at all. There was no way to have any assurance it was the same person. (Again not that 4chan is secure.)
A real "high-level informant" with "Q clearance" would have used a f'ing PGP signature or a signed message in a Bitcoin transaction or something cryptographically verifiable.
Edit: the white-hat coup narrative goes back really far in conspiranoid and new-age literature. It goes back at least to the I AM movement, which had a narrative that sounded a lot like Q plus some ascended master woo woo. I AM was a totalitarian cult with fascist-adjacent leanings that was at one point trying to organize a march on Washington, but it never happened for some reason. I think the cult leader died or something if I remember correctly.
There's a tiny bit of evidence for a direct link. There was a video making the rounds a while back of Michael Flynn at some Q event saying a prayer that turned out to be straight out of one of the I AM offshoots. Seems a bit of a stretch though to imagine some old cult trying to launch their revolution a second time. It's more likely that grifters are just pulling bullshit from places like I AM to develop their own grifts.
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#38Anybody who has the skills to identify the creator of Bitcoin would not sit on it waiting for an HBO documentary. I'm guessing they're just going to say Hal Finney without any new evidence. Safer than saying Szabo who could push back since he's alive.
my moneys on le roux
1) Sit in a prison in NJ until he is 70+ years old.
2) When he is released, immediately be deported to the Philippines where he will face another trial, and get thrown in jail for the rest of his life.
If he had $50B+ in BTC, why wouldn't he break out of the not super secure prison in New Jersey, and go live like a king in Indonesia or something?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Adam Back. Ever notice how anytime anyone mentions his name as possibly being satoshi they get buried? Not a coincidence. Plus Adam had no work history during the dates that Bitcoin was created. Had created the system that bitcoin is based on and never produced the emails of him and Satoshi that supposedly existed. Remember the first email from Satoshi mentions he got "your email from Adam Back". Google also manipula…
No. Satoshi IP leaked in LA when Back wasn’t there. Back’s stylometry is way off too. Those two should be enough for you to figure it out with some digging
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No. Satoshi IP leaked in LA when Back wasn’t there. Back’s stylometry is way off too. Those two should be enough for you to figure it out with some digging
I assume a person like Back is familiar enough with opsec that he could intentionally change his writing style, and also "accidentally" leak his IP, (via a VPN), when he is somewhere else in the world.
A: Back is Satoshi, mimics X (who has many other reasons to be Satoshi) for hundreds of emails.
B: Back isn't Satoshi, X's stylometry matches Satoshi.