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Re: Meta blocks links to hacked JD Vance dossier over election interference concerns

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> and it's true That's the problematic part. The factcheckers can just sit on something that doesn't help their cause and then attempt to deal with it years later. E.g. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

Yeah, I agree. It's not the place of a social media platform to judge. There's no such thing as unbiased, neutral fact checkers. Readers will have to judge the truth of it for themselves. I was trying to say that it shouldn't matter if the information came from mainstream news source, a hacker, enemy state or whoever else. My understanding is that meta blocked the dossier solely on the basis of where they believe the…

Social media platforms have to comply with local political pressure (both official and unofficial), so they are somewhat forced to. Do we really have any governments that will allow people to judge for themselves?

I can understand a government's hesitancy to do that, because if the whole society believes the same mistruths (especially about history, politics etc.), it is more stable and productive than one which has people at odds with each other over what they consider the truth to be.

Re: Meta blocks links to hacked JD Vance dossier over election interference concerns

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If it's in the public interest, and it's true, then it's news and should be published regardless of who came up with it or their possible motives are for doing so. The PDF link posted by moneycantbuy in this thread appears to be appropriately redacted, hiding personal information which isn't newsworthy such as his social security number and home address.. but even then, I just tried Googling "JD Vance home" and I get…

It's not in the public interest if it's not authentified. We had a similar leak during the french presidential election, the "MacronLeaks". It was a mix of fabricated scandalous data, and legitimate boring data. I'm glad the media chose not to cover it.

And who will do this 'authentofication'? We've had lies, coverups and collusions by 'fact checkers', authorities, Media and the scientific community alike on all sides of the politicaly spectra across the globe.

At this point, just have the debates in public about what is and is not true. The sweaty palms of those trying to shepherd the public reek of propaganda and corruption.

"I'm glad the media chose not to cover it"

Why? Because this time it served your own preferences? Will you br ate where you as glad when its the opposite side 'protecting' you?

Re: Meta blocks links to hacked JD Vance dossier over election interference concerns

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It's not in the public interest if it's not authentified. We had a similar leak during the french presidential election, the "MacronLeaks". It was a mix of fabricated scandalous data, and legitimate boring data. I'm glad the media chose not to cover it.

And who will do this 'authentofication'? We've had lies, coverups and collusions by 'fact checkers', authorities, Media and the scientific community alike on all sides of the politicaly spectra across the globe. At this point, just have the debates in public about what is and is not true. The sweaty palms of those trying to shepherd the public reek of propaganda and corruption. "I'm glad the media chose not to cover…

Yeah actually the same thing happened with the Macron email leak - not a shred of evidence has been produced that any of the emails are forgeries. It is just a common disinformation technique to say “there are fake emails among these” and then refuse to clarify.

Re: Meta blocks links to hacked JD Vance dossier over election interference concerns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And who will do this 'authentofication'? We've had lies, coverups and collusions by 'fact checkers', authorities, Media and the scientific community alike on all sides of the politicaly spectra across the globe. At this point, just have the debates in public about what is and is not true. The sweaty palms of those trying to shepherd the public reek of propaganda and corruption. "I'm glad the media chose not to cover…

Yeah actually the same thing happened with the Macron email leak - not a shred of evidence has been produced that any of the emails are forgeries. It is just a common disinformation technique to say “there are fake emails among these” and then refuse to clarify.

That's incorrect, the metadata of the emails were incorrectly scrubbed and proven to be forgeries. You can check the files yourself.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/08/macron-hackers...

Re: Meta blocks links to hacked JD Vance dossier over election interference concerns

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It's not in the public interest if it's not authentified. We had a similar leak during the french presidential election, the "MacronLeaks". It was a mix of fabricated scandalous data, and legitimate boring data. I'm glad the media chose not to cover it.

And who will do this 'authentofication'? We've had lies, coverups and collusions by 'fact checkers', authorities, Media and the scientific community alike on all sides of the politicaly spectra across the globe. At this point, just have the debates in public about what is and is not true. The sweaty palms of those trying to shepherd the public reek of propaganda and corruption. "I'm glad the media chose not to cover…

No, because it was proven to be a forgery. Russian metadata was left by accident in the dump. Check the files yourself if you don't believe it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/08/macron-hackers...

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