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OpenAI to become for-profit company

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Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

#31

Converting to a for-profit changes the tax status of donations. It also voids plausibility for Fair Use exemptions. I can see large copyright holders lining up with takedowns demanding they revise their originating datasets since there will now be a clear-cut commercial use without license.

I hope I can join in, as a consumer, because there’s a difference between using the IP I contribute to conversations for a non-profit and a commercial enterprise.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

#32

Converting to a for-profit changes the tax status of donations. It also voids plausibility for Fair Use exemptions. I can see large copyright holders lining up with takedowns demanding they revise their originating datasets since there will now be a clear-cut commercial use without license.

A non-profit entity will continue to exist. Likely for the reasons you stated.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

#33
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing so much money rolling in, hard to not want a slice of the pie.

Only hard if you're that kind of person. Not everyone is like that. And those kind of people have difficulty believing this.

It's a "courage isn't the absence of fear" sort of situation.

I don't think there's many people out there who would not be tempted at all to take some of that money for themselves. Rather, people are willing and able to rise above that temptation.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

#35

So if I contributed IP to ChatGPT on the basis that OpenAI was a non-profit and they relicense can they sell my IP? That seems like fraud to me.

Didn't altman say 'pwease wet us ignowe copywhite waw! we can't be pwofitabwe if we don't...' in some legal forum recently?

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

#36
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That could be the first step towards a complete takeover by Microsoft, possibly followed by more CEO shuffles. I wonder though whether Microsoft is still interested. The free Bing Copilot barely gets any resources and gives very bad answers now. If the above theory is correct (big if!), perhaps Microsoft wants to pivot to the military space. That would be in line with idealist employees leaving or being fired.

> CEO shuffles

Yes, I too can see how sama could end up as Microsoft’s CEO as a result of this

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only hard if you're that kind of person. Not everyone is like that. And those kind of people have difficulty believing this.

Everyone is like that when the number is potentially in the trillions. There are just people who are like that and people who think they aren’t because they’ve never been within a digit grouping of it.

There definitely are people who aren't like that. Not a lot for sure, but they exist.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only hard if you're that kind of person. Not everyone is like that. And those kind of people have difficulty believing this.

Everyone is like that when the number is potentially in the trillions. There are just people who are like that and people who think they aren’t because they’ve never been within a digit grouping of it.

There are many examples through history proving you wrong.

* Frederick Banting sold the patent for insulin to the University of Toronto for just $1.

* Tim Berners-Lee decided not to patent the web, making it free for public use.

* Jonas Salk refused to patent the polio vaccine - "can you patent the sun?"

* Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds could have easily sold humanity out for untold billions.

* Chuck Feeny silently gave away $8bn, keeping only a few million.

... And in any case, this is an extreme situation. AI is an existential threat/opportunity. Allowing it to be sidestepped into the hands of Sam "sell me your retinal scans for $50" Altman is fucking insane, and that's putting it lightly.

Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company

#40
Lot of people unhappy about this yet not at all unhappy (or even caring) about the 1,000s of others who started out for profit. And while we're all here hacking away (we're hackers, right?) many of us with startups, what is it we're chasing? Profit, money, time, control. Are we different except in scale? Food for thought.
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