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Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by LastTrain »

carabiner wrote: post #24
ineedaj0b wrote: post #21

John's a very good comedian and the tech scene deserves more! roasting 'liberal' tech workers is a good chance not getting invited back. And tech events pay well. when i messed around, the most fun were the Jewish clubs in Boca and really any Black club (if you're funny they laugh the hardest). Scotland was also a lot of fun. i got invited to teach an improv session at a large university on behalf of their group (wit…

The liberals are conservative today and the conservatives are liberal. Old Republicans now support the Democratic party. I fully believe the R's are currently the counter culture and the liberals are staid defenders of "how things should be" like the housewives of the 1950s.

You have it exactly backwards. Conservatives still want it to be 1950 and liberals want to continue our progress.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by dole »

lupusreal wrote: post #29
bilbo0s wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? They were a little funny. I mean the guy's right. 45,000 "trailblazers"? Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's like, what? 40-45 Marine Corps battalions?

Being right doesn't mean it's funny though... Call me old fashioned but isn't the point of comedy to be funny, not correct? What do I know though, it's been years since I've found any standup comic very funny, and most comedy movies just make me groan. I'm no expert on what is or isn't funny, I just find it odd that you defend the humor here by pointing out its correctness. FWIW I've never heard of this guy nor heard…

There's a shred of truth in every joke.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by lupusreal »

dole wrote: post #32
lupusreal wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being right doesn't mean it's funny though... Call me old fashioned but isn't the point of comedy to be funny, not correct? What do I know though, it's been years since I've found any standup comic very funny, and most comedy movies just make me groan. I'm no expert on what is or isn't funny, I just find it odd that you defend the humor here by pointing out its correctness. FWIW I've never heard of this guy nor heard…

There's a shred of truth in every joke.

Sure, but "fire is hot" isn't much of a joke.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by djkivi »

bilbo0s wrote: post #18
tayo42 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It needs to be funny though, and the quotes in the article were a miss for me...

Huh? They were a little funny. I mean the guy's right. 45,000 "trailblazers"? Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's like, what? 40-45 Marine Corps battalions?

Well, 40 Marine Corps battalions could probably blaze a few trails...

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by dragonwriter »

cholantesh wrote: post #26
carabiner wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The liberals are conservative today and the conservatives are liberal. Old Republicans now support the Democratic party. I fully believe the R's are currently the counter culture and the liberals are staid defenders of "how things should be" like the housewives of the 1950s.

If being nakedly reactionary is liberal now, sure, why not?

Yeah, if you think the difference between "liberal" on "conservative" is about "change" vs "status quo" rather about outward distribution of power vs. preserving narrow concentration of power, you would tend to view a genuinely reactionary party as "liberal" and a liberal/progressive party that has drawn conservative support against the reactionaries as just "conservative".

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by dragonwriter »

mc32 wrote: post #9

That was Awesome! *in Chris Farley* That has to be so much fun to get paid to roast and humiliate a group of people who think so much of themselves. Congratulations, John. I'm envious.

> That has to be so much fun to get paid to roast and humiliate a group of people who think so much of themselves.

When they are making money hand over first and paying you to roast them, you aren't humiliating them, you are serving as a foil whose whole purpose is to reinforce their ego and sense of triumph against a world that doesn't get what they are doing.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by cholantesh »

dragonwriter wrote: post #35
cholantesh wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If being nakedly reactionary is liberal now, sure, why not?

Yeah, if you think the difference between "liberal" on "conservative" is about "change" vs "status quo" rather about outward distribution of power vs. preserving narrow concentration of power, you would tend to view a genuinely reactionary party as "liberal" and a liberal/progressive party that has drawn conservative support against the reactionaries as just "conservative".

If you are arguing that the reactionary ethos is about broader distribution of power, this makes even less sense.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by cholantesh »

tayo42 wrote: post #25
bilbo0s wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? They were a little funny. I mean the guy's right. 45,000 "trailblazers"? Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's like, what? 40-45 Marine Corps battalions?

I guess part of it not being funny is it feels alittle over done. I can't imagine it's the first time you've heard that sentiment.

I quite like John Mulaney but I do kind of agree, these are rather contrived insights. That being said, I also think that delivery is part of what makes a joke land and we're just reading a few select bits after the fact as opposed to watching Mulaney deliver them onstage. I remember being introduced to some Mitch Hedberg bits over IM some years back, followed the next day by them reciting those bits, and it didn't click at all until they popped in a VHS tape (yes it was that long ago) and I saw Hedberg anxiously weaving back and forth, heard him mumbling and elongating his phrases. I wouldn't say Mulaney's in the same league, but I don't think it's unfair to say this contributes.

Re: Comedian John Mulaney brutally roasts SF techies at Dreamforce

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Post by dragonwriter »

cholantesh wrote: post #37
dragonwriter wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, if you think the difference between "liberal" on "conservative" is about "change" vs "status quo" rather about outward distribution of power vs. preserving narrow concentration of power, you would tend to view a genuinely reactionary party as "liberal" and a liberal/progressive party that has drawn conservative support against the reactionaries as just "conservative".

If you are arguing that the reactionary ethos is about broader distribution of power, this makes even less sense.

> If you are arguing that the reactionary ethos is about broader distribution of power

No, I literally exactly said the opposite, that you have to misconceptualize "liberal" vs. "conservative" as about change v. stasis rather than distribution of power to mistake "reactionary" for "liberal" and "anti-reactionary coalition" for "conservative".

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