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Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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More nuclear is a good thing. FAANG nuclear is even better, because they will be be ready and equipped to push back the insane NIMBY crowd(s) and also don't need to be worried about getting reelected.

Yeah, 'move fast and break things' is certainly the best ideology for running nuclear plant.

Microsoft is not operating the nuclear plant, so that ideology isn't being applied to the operation of the plant.

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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post #20

More nuclear is a good thing. FAANG nuclear is even better, because they will be be ready and equipped to push back the insane NIMBY crowd(s) and also don't need to be worried about getting reelected.

Yeah, 'move fast and break things' is certainly the best ideology for running nuclear plant.

Microsoft engineers aren't running the power plant.

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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post #11

Fascinating. How will we live ok back in, say five years, at this very funny period from, 2018ish to 2022ish when our echo chamber made us believe ESG was going to save the world. How far we’ve come. Is it all due to the prospect of finally seeing a feasible road to AGI?!

> Is it all due to the prospect of finally seeing a feasible road to AGI?! Or just hope. AGI is a capitalist's wet dream: it would completely undercut labor's power or allow it to be replaced completely, and it could also allow the developer to muscle out a large fraction of other capitalists from the economy. Even though AGI would be terrible for the rest of us, it's got so much upside for VC types they can't help t…

You're claiming it would be terrible for the rest of us, without supporting that assumption in any way. It's not a fact, pseudo scifi action movies don't count as facts.

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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My sister is a geologist who works at nuke plants (regulatory stuff, determing if they're in legal areas to build, ground contamination, etc). She always complains that it's an old-mans (this was in her 20s, 20 years ago) group of staff everywhere with guys who had incredibly light educations on what they're actually working on and had been in the business, and sometimes at the same plants, for decades. Some 40-50+ years.

We might have a severe lack of people who can work in the field at plants and tech getting involved is probably a good thing on making that field more prominent for new students than it currently is.

"Nuclear Engineer for Microsoft" is a cool title.

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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More nuclear is a good thing. FAANG nuclear is even better, because they will be be ready and equipped to push back the insane NIMBY crowd(s) and also don't need to be worried about getting reelected.

How are nimby crowds insane? Accidents may happen. And did happen in the past in that same place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

Coal plants have killed a minimum of 500k people over the past 20 years[1]. It's not an accident in that case, it's known and planned for (or at least easily predicted enough that it should have been).

But when a few hundred people, or really just 0 people[2] die in one place at one time, people lose their minds.

[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/23/coal-pow... [2]: An inter-agency analysis concluded that the accident did not raise radioactivity far enough above background levels to cause even one additional cancer death among the people in the area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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post #12

While this is better than loading up a coal power plant, the way I see it, it's still a tragic situation. Even if AI used purely fossil-free electricity (which it doesn't), it's still putting pressure on our grids and energy production. The green energy AI consumes if the green energy some other less lucrative industry will not consume. Big tech is currently scraping their net neutrality plans left and right...

What exactly is the problem? That they're using any energy at all? Well, I don't like that people have lights on after 7 PM...

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

#38

More nuclear is a good thing. FAANG nuclear is even better, because they will be be ready and equipped to push back the insane NIMBY crowd(s) and also don't need to be worried about getting reelected.

How are nimby crowds insane? Accidents may happen. And did happen in the past in that same place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

Its crazy how this resulted in 0 deaths, yet it pretty much halted nuclear power production for good in the US.

Re: Three Mile Island nuclear plant restart in Microsoft AI power deal

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post #13
post #8

Wow. AI has already accomplished more positive in a few years of big commercial stuff (admittedly as a side effect) than cryptocurrency has since, say 2009. :(

How is this positive news?

Solving the political problems behind nuclear power (getting TMI restarted being one of the more difficult politically but easier technically), and generally bringing the "build more nuclear" to forefront.

(Although to be fair there's been a fair bit of wind and solar subsidized heavily by crypto, as well as flare gas power generation, and a bit of PV solar)

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