Seems wrong that Ireland cheated the system to attract tech companies then also gets a huge payout.
Apple must pay 13B euros in back taxes, EU's top court rules
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#32Why is it Apple that has to pay for what Ireland did wrong? Genuinely curious here, it's not like Ireland is some random dude on the internet selling stolen goods and Apple should've known better.
First line of the judgement: “Ireland granted Apple unlawful aid which Ireland is required to recover”
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#33Good. Not because I particularly dilike Apple or big US tech firms (I have a whole bunch of Apple stuff right here), but because Ireland has been able to undermine the tax regime of the whole EU, by giving these sweetheart tax deals to big firms, who can then run their entire EU business from there. This gives an unfair tax advantage to the multinationals over homegrown EU companies, skewing the market. Is it Apple's…
Yeah, agreed, Apple is simply doing what any corporation does, trying to do business as profitably as possible. The only tar bucket you should be having handy is for Ireland for trying to screw over the whole rest of EU.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you give Apple the leeway to do what a company has to and not Ireland to do what a country has to succeed that's very hypocritical of you.
Because Ireland has joined the EU and knowingly chosen to participate in treaties pertaining to the shared market. If Ireland wanted to leave the EU then it would be free to do so, then it can cut Apple all the tax breaks it wants. However as is, Ireland is trying to please two masters at the same time and the court cases seem pretty clear about how that is going for them.
Re: Apple must pay 13B euros in back taxes, EU's top court rules
#35Good. Not because I particularly dilike Apple or big US tech firms (I have a whole bunch of Apple stuff right here), but because Ireland has been able to undermine the tax regime of the whole EU, by giving these sweetheart tax deals to big firms, who can then run their entire EU business from there. This gives an unfair tax advantage to the multinationals over homegrown EU companies, skewing the market. Is it Apple's…
What about Luxembourg?
Re: Apple must pay 13B euros in back taxes, EU's top court rules
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
First line of the judgement: “Ireland granted Apple unlawful aid which Ireland is required to recover”
But Ireland refused, so the fault still lies with Ireland in this case. I mean the EU is full of tax elimination or subsidies for targeted companies, far beyond this case, so it seems that this is more about Apple than the actual taxes.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you give Apple the leeway to do what a company has to and not Ireland to do what a country has to succeed that's very hypocritical of you.
It's not, because Ireland chose to be part of the EU which its actions are undermining. Also, we accept the fact that in capitalism companies have the goal to maximize profit, but the purpose of a country is not to maximize tax income compared to others
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#38Edit: Please downvote me if you must but also post a comment about why I'm wrong. Thanks!
Re: Apple must pay 13B euros in back taxes, EU's top court rules
#39Ιf that is true it should be easy to prove. Letting them pay peanuts is an insult to the whole of EU by the Irish government
Re: Apple must pay 13B euros in back taxes, EU's top court rules
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you give Apple the leeway to do what a company has to and not Ireland to do what a country has to succeed that's very hypocritical of you.
It's not, because Ireland chose to be part of the EU which its actions are undermining. Also, we accept the fact that in capitalism companies have the goal to maximize profit, but the purpose of a country is not to maximize tax income compared to others