I think it would've been a better choice to move to something they host like gitea or gitlab. nonetheless it's a step in the right direction, nobody should use mail+git in this day and age.
Nginx has moved to GitHub
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Re: Nginx has moved to GitHub
#32What's the state of nginx nowadays? Last I heard the original core team had fractured and formed two different forks while F5 continued to develop OG nginx, so there's three nginxes being developed in parallel now. Have the forks gained any traction?
TEngine might be the most well-known fork
Re: Nginx has moved to GitHub
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Github managed to provided search to free anonymous users since its inception in 2007, to mid-2023 when they introduced this new code search. I would submit that this change is entirely business-related: it's a power-play to make people create accounts and stay logged in so they can track you better. It is not that they cannot afford it, it is that they are enshittifying the service to further their interests. If the…
> it's a power-play to make people create accounts and stay logged in so they can track you better Github doesn't even serve ads. What exactly are you worried about? Your throwaway email being primary key #78,000,000 and having your visited repositories stored in another table?
Microsoft serves ads though. I haven't looked through the terms and conditions, but I'd be amazed if it wasn't permitted for GitHub to give whatever they can glean from your data to their corporate overlord.
Re: Nginx has moved to GitHub
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Github managed to provided search to free anonymous users since its inception in 2007, to mid-2023 when they introduced this new code search. I would submit that this change is entirely business-related: it's a power-play to make people create accounts and stay logged in so they can track you better. It is not that they cannot afford it, it is that they are enshittifying the service to further their interests. If the…
> it's a power-play to make people create accounts and stay logged in so they can track you better Github doesn't even serve ads. What exactly are you worried about? Your throwaway email being primary key #78,000,000 and having your visited repositories stored in another table?
It's a change in direction, one by one these things change, one day, there are Ads, or your github repo search journey is being used to train the AI programmer to replace you in those very libraries and repos you develop expertise in.
There's no good to come of requiring people to log in for the consumer. Online Tracking is never good for the consumer.
Re: Nginx has moved to GitHub
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It's worth mentioning here I think that github's code search is really quite good. I'm not trying to say that github can do no harm or that github "owning" OSS code hosting is a good thing, but the github search bar is a utility that IMO is worth the price of admission. I think that sourcegraph maintains a similar quality OSS code search that can be searched for free but I have not personally used it.
The problem is that GH makes it the login process as painful as possible. Login tokens expire frequently, necessitating new logins. Logins require 2fa every time, which makes them extremely flow-breaking. Post-login you're not returned to the file you were on, so now you need to navigate back to search. Logins are per domain and per device, so I end up dealing with this 4x per day if I'm using GitHub heavily. It's un…
To me, ordinary login is one of the things they've genuinely improved over time I feel? I absolutely never deal with logins more than once a day per machine? With stuff like Passkey support now, I basically click two buttons in 1Pass and I'm logged in instantly on ~everywhere. I also feel like I never have my tokens expire.
I'm probably not doing the same stuff as you. It's sudo/elevated mode that really gets you I think, if you have no fast flow. Admittedly I don't add keys or anything like that very often.
Re: Nginx has moved to GitHub
#36Recently, I was browsing an open source project I use a lot. "Sign in to search code on GitHub" was kinda discouraging to see. Sure, I can clone it and run grep/ripgrep - but sometimes I like the ability to search the code on the browser. Is it only GitHub where this is a restriction or GitLab is similar?
You can change github.com to github1s.com to get VSCode in browser with fairly capable search without logging in. E.g. https://github1s.com/nginx/nginx
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#37I think it would've been a better choice to move to something they host like gitea or gitlab. nonetheless it's a step in the right direction, nobody should use mail+git in this day and age.
cough" Linux Kernel cough*
Re: Nginx has moved to GitHub
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's worth mentioning here I think that github's code search is really quite good. I'm not trying to say that github can do no harm or that github "owning" OSS code hosting is a good thing, but the github search bar is a utility that IMO is worth the price of admission. I think that sourcegraph maintains a similar quality OSS code search that can be searched for free but I have not personally used it.
The problem is that GH makes it the login process as painful as possible. Login tokens expire frequently, necessitating new logins. Logins require 2fa every time, which makes them extremely flow-breaking. Post-login you're not returned to the file you were on, so now you need to navigate back to search. Logins are per domain and per device, so I end up dealing with this 4x per day if I'm using GitHub heavily. It's un…
What? My login tokens haven’t expired in years. I don’t think I’ve had to sign in twice on the same computer ever
Re: Nginx has moved to GitHub
#39Re: Nginx has moved to GitHub
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Github managed to provided search to free anonymous users since its inception in 2007, to mid-2023 when they introduced this new code search. I would submit that this change is entirely business-related: it's a power-play to make people create accounts and stay logged in so they can track you better. It is not that they cannot afford it, it is that they are enshittifying the service to further their interests. If the…
> it's a power-play to make people create accounts and stay logged in so they can track you better Github doesn't even serve ads. What exactly are you worried about? Your throwaway email being primary key #78,000,000 and having your visited repositories stored in another table?
Yes. Microsoft is already siphoning data everywhere they can, why should I give them more?
Most people have their real name and e-mail there because they use it to sign code in trusted repositories, so it's easy to combine these data with other sources.