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Re: NSA Codebreaker Challenge 2024

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It is kind of an issue because a lot of people lose their school email when they graduate. Asking the same cause this is one I've never had time to do when I was in university and would like to do it now that I'm graduated.

It's for recruiting and they mainly want new grads. It's a filter not a bug. It is a shame you can't get access as a non recruitment target though.

It's also a shame they only see recent grads as recruitment targets.

Re: NSA Codebreaker Challenge 2024

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It's for recruiting and they mainly want new grads. It's a filter not a bug. It is a shame you can't get access as a non recruitment target though.

It's also a shame they only see recent grads as recruitment targets.

The people whom this is meant for are not the people who would complain about "needing" an EDU email and would just get one or figure out a bypass.

Re: NSA Codebreaker Challenge 2024

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Aha, that'd explain it. NSA only hire people fresh out of school?

They primarily do. Someone else on the thread says they do some industry hires, but everyone I know who worked there was recruited from engineering school.

They primarily do. Someone else on the thread says they do some industry hires, but everyone I know who worked there was recruited from engineering school.

I remember a bunch of TLAs approached most of my friends in college, but never took an interest in me.

At the time I thought, "That's stupid. I'm the best phreaker in this NPA!" Later I realized this might be a liability, not an asset.

Re: NSA Codebreaker Challenge 2024

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Is it cheating to use commonplace AI? NSA are a practical bunch, they probably dont much care how one solves the problems, but AI could change the nature of such tests. The rules say no getting help from persons, which leaves the AI door open imho. (Fysa, there is a reasonable chance that someone involved in this competition is following this topic. HN is known in the more nerdy corners of the int/defense world.)

Might be more acceptable if you use a locally hosted version, instead of someone else's.

Re: NSA Codebreaker Challenge 2024

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After reading "Permanent Record" by Edward Snowden and "Cult of the Dead Cow" by Joseph Menn, I can't help but feel like the NSA is basically "the bad guys", and I assumed most hackers would feel the same. Are people really excited to do challenges like these for them? I don't mean that in an accusatory way, just genuinely curious as my perspectives (one from a whistleblower and one from 80s hacker culture) are obvio…

You’re right. The US IC has shown time and time again that they have no moral compass, no regard for the US Constitution, and no regard for human rights or the rule of law.

That said, neither do a lot of hackers. There is a long history of collaboration between hackers and the military-industrial complex. Silicon Valley is Silicon Valley because of the DoD. And the director of the NSA once gave the keynote at DEF-CON.

Even the best hacker movie, from which I take my nick, ends with the hackers assisting the NSA as if they are the good guys. :(

Intelligent people like Snowden don’t become as deep into the NSA as they are without a whole lot of “good guys” propaganda for many years first.

Re: NSA Codebreaker Challenge 2024

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After reading "Permanent Record" by Edward Snowden and "Cult of the Dead Cow" by Joseph Menn, I can't help but feel like the NSA is basically "the bad guys", and I assumed most hackers would feel the same. Are people really excited to do challenges like these for them? I don't mean that in an accusatory way, just genuinely curious as my perspectives (one from a whistleblower and one from 80s hacker culture) are obvio…

You’re right. The US IC has shown time and time again that they have no moral compass, no regard for the US Constitution, and no regard for human rights or the rule of law. That said, neither do a lot of hackers. There is a long history of collaboration between hackers and the military-industrial complex. Silicon Valley is Silicon Valley because of the DoD. And the director of the NSA once gave the keynote at DEF-CON…

I’m sure you’re aware of this but Snowden wasn’t in the NSA. He worked for a contractor to manage their IT.

Re: NSA Codebreaker Challenge 2024

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re right. The US IC has shown time and time again that they have no moral compass, no regard for the US Constitution, and no regard for human rights or the rule of law. That said, neither do a lot of hackers. There is a long history of collaboration between hackers and the military-industrial complex. Silicon Valley is Silicon Valley because of the DoD. And the director of the NSA once gave the keynote at DEF-CON…

I’m sure you’re aware of this but Snowden wasn’t in the NSA. He worked for a contractor to manage their IT.

He was both! Initially working for a contractor, then for them directly. He may have again gone back to a contractor afterwards.
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