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Las Vegas police could boycott working NFL games over new facial ID policy

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Re: Las Vegas police could boycott working NFL games over new facial ID policy

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> It would be quite straightforward to make your biometric identity a public private key kind of setup. There is no repudiation, attestation or key rotation in this setup, with all the attendant problems that creates.

you can always save up for plastic surgery!

"In response to this data breach we are offering you free Experian plastic surgery services for the next year."

Re: Las Vegas police could boycott working NFL games over new facial ID policy

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The title confused me because here in Germany the police are civil servants and they generally don't have a right to strike or just choose not to do their job as they're an executive organ of the state but apparently here the police is just.. side hustling? "conversations with officers “making them very well aware of what they’re agreeing to.” But the decision may come down to what individual officers are comfortable…

> Hiring the police out as a private security force where they then get to negotiate what rules they have to play by has a Judge Dredd vibe to it The work is voluntary overtime work. They're not forced to accept voluntary overtime work. It's an optional thing they can choose to do above and beyond their base job, if the pay and terms are interesting enough. I don't see why it's a problem. What are the alternatives? F…

Have private security work the private event. Send a token number of police along, at the city's expense (the same number they'd normally assign to an area with 50,000 people out and about, so the sports event isn't sucking disproportionate resources).

If the stadium is such a hotbed of crime and disorder that private security can't handle it and they really need to escalate constantly to involve armed law enforcement, stop allowing it to host games at all.

Re: Las Vegas police could boycott working NFL games over new facial ID policy

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They don’t sell data, they just collect it to target relevant ads. If you can find an instance of them (or Google) actually selling data to brokers, please share

Brave ai summary: Facebook’s Facial Recognition Data Collection and Potential Sales to Third Parties in Texas Based on the provided search results, here are the key findings: In 2022, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sued Meta Platforms, Facebook’s parent company, alleging that it collected facial recognition data without users’ consent, violating Texas state law. The lawsuit claimed that Facebook repeatedly capture…

Ken Paxton can't be taken seriously, nor can allegations he makes sadly. It doesn't make financial sense to sell the data itself and undermine their ad business; I wonder what that suit and settlement were about.

Re: Las Vegas police could boycott working NFL games over new facial ID policy

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More importantly than being outraged over the biometrics invasion (which you should 100% be outraged over). You should be more outraged at the hypocrisy.

Las Vegas runs a fusion center which has some of the most invasive monitoring, capturing, metrics/data collection of most agencies.

They do the following: - license plate recognition on every intersection. - microphones through the city which listen to conversations - drones which fly into and above people’s back yards. - Weaponized drones, ie fly drones into windows to break them, or people to stop them - thermal imagine of people’s houses and backyards. - facial ID against social media from cameras, as well as NCIC and more. - they have fake social media profiles they use to follow pages, groups, individuals suspected of bad behavior - they purchase PI from brokers en masse and run against it. - they probably have more cameras than almost any city in the US. - they have taps into all casinos cameras and microphones.

… these are the same officers who are upset over the new facial ID policy.

Here’s a brief news clip. But I also know these details because I’ve seen them first hand.

https://www.fox5vegas.com/video/2023/11/14/fox5-takes-an-ins...

Re: Las Vegas police could boycott working NFL games over new facial ID policy

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This kind of biometric security is getting a bit ridiculous. It would be different if it was done in a secure way and by that I mean secure in the sense that the person who provides the biometric data you had the ability to secure it wherever it went. This could absolutely be done but the reason it's not is companies totally want to gather this data from people and then sell it to other companies for machine learning…

> It would be quite straightforward to make your biometric identity a public private key kind of setup. There is no repudiation, attestation or key rotation in this setup, with all the attendant problems that creates.

All of those things can be part of it. You're totally forgetting where we're coming from right now which is your identification or attestation is a little plastic card that is issued by the government based upon some other pieces of paper. There is no rotation of that either. The primary thing people use to identify you is your social security number in the United States which was never even envisioned as a way to identify someone it was simply an account number.

What I'm proposing puts the private key in your hands and requires you to locally do some sort of second Factor authentication to release it so it can be validated against the public key that the government or another entity has.

To issue or reissue or key rotate as you say can support the same methods we have now for determining identity and it also provides a better more secure method for determining identity.

You have to keep in mind perfect is the enemy of good and any solution that puts your identity in your own hands is massively better than what we have now and what any country has now.

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