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Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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I know this isn't quite the right place, but can anyone point to some research or writeups on the Chrome ad topics stuff? How does that impact user privacy? What is shared with third parties? I know next to nothing about it at the moment.

This is a great paper on how it doesn’t make reserve privacy in the way Google claims it will:

https://arxiv.org/html/2403.19577v1

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Damn. If there was ever any doubt about why you should get off chrome, this seems to put an end to that.

right but at least google will tell you. brave a lot more shady and just wont say anything or let you opt out. many examples in the past. imagine if they were anywhere near a quarter of googles size it wouldnt be pretty imo.

Could you elaborate?

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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> We conducted a user study with 30 Web users, recruited over social media, and presented them each with 20 pairs of websites. Website pairs were randomly selected from both the Related Website Sets list (i.e., sites Google designates as “related”, and so warranting reduced privacy protections), and the Tranco list of popular websites. Each user was presented with different pairs of websites, asked to view the sites,…

If anything it sounds like "related" is not what they are actually doing. Rather they are looking at ways to uniquely fingerprint users through optimizing how they split "related" sites. Reminds me of the research that shows that 87% of people in the US can be uniquely identified with only three pieces of information: date of birth, gender, and zip code [1]. [1]: https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/pa…

Really? That's odd. The typical zip code has a population of about ~9000. Dates of birth are about evenly distributed, so you'd still get about 24 people/birthday, or around 12 men or women per birthday per zip code.. I might be off by a fair amount in either direction, but I don't think I'd be twelve times off.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything it sounds like "related" is not what they are actually doing. Rather they are looking at ways to uniquely fingerprint users through optimizing how they split "related" sites. Reminds me of the research that shows that 87% of people in the US can be uniquely identified with only three pieces of information: date of birth, gender, and zip code [1]. [1]: https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/pa…

Really? That's odd. The typical zip code has a population of about ~9000. Dates of birth are about evenly distributed, so you'd still get about 24 people/birthday, or around 12 men or women per birthday per zip code.. I might be off by a fair amount in either direction, but I don't think I'd be twelve times off.

Dates of birth are not evenly distributed.

To clarify: your date of birth includes the year. It’s more specific than your birthday, which we usually think of as just day & month.

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything it sounds like "related" is not what they are actually doing. Rather they are looking at ways to uniquely fingerprint users through optimizing how they split "related" sites. Reminds me of the research that shows that 87% of people in the US can be uniquely identified with only three pieces of information: date of birth, gender, and zip code [1]. [1]: https://dataprivacylab.org/projects/identifiability/pa…

Really? That's odd. The typical zip code has a population of about ~9000. Dates of birth are about evenly distributed, so you'd still get about 24 people/birthday, or around 12 men or women per birthday per zip code.. I might be off by a fair amount in either direction, but I don't think I'd be twelve times off.

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Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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That seems to be saying it is extremely likely that the only other person in my zip code that shares my birthdate is opposite gender

statistically, 50% chance, innit?

OP seems to claim 13% same / 87% opposite

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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post #31
post #27

I know this isn't quite the right place, but can anyone point to some research or writeups on the Chrome ad topics stuff? How does that impact user privacy? What is shared with third parties? I know next to nothing about it at the moment.

This is a great paper on how it doesn’t make reserve privacy in the way Google claims it will: https://arxiv.org/html/2403.19577v1

so do they mention if the old system would be better in comparison? cause short of just making you pay to use the products i dont know if it can be any worse.

at the end of the day it seems like 90% of people using google products dont even care. while some even prefer the convivence of some features that directly save your info. not sure what percentage that is compared to the people that practice a lot privacy.

but shown by the chrome market share google really doesnt have to care about this section of users. the fact theyre willing to try things is a good sign imo. either way in 2024 to be complianing about google is funny to me. literally dont have to interact or use a google product, they already have your information and so does the internet better to not let them occupy any of your mind as well

Re: Chrome is entrenching third-party cookies that will mislead users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

right but at least google will tell you. brave a lot more shady and just wont say anything or let you opt out. many examples in the past. imagine if they were anywhere near a quarter of googles size it wouldnt be pretty imo.

Could you elaborate?

vpn incident for one and their refusal the change initially or admit any wrong doing which i mean is the theme for every controversy they go through
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