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Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by darby_nine »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #4

Yeah, it's time for Google to be broken up into pieces because of anti-competitive laws and really get back to making America into a capitalistic society once again.

> Yeah, it's time for Google to be broken up into pieces because of anti-competitive laws and really get back to making America into a capitalistic society once again.

Isn't that what got us into this mess in the first place? Seems to me that anti-competitive practices are the logical conclusion of privately-owned enterprise.

EDIT: to be clear, I'm very pro breaking up google. I'm just surprised that people are coming back around to the idea that government intervention is necessary to balance a stable economy with a private one.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by zelias »

going by Hanlon's Razor, i would guess that this is merely the result of an engineering update that nobody bothered to QA on Firefox rather than a malicious attack on a single browser that isn't _really_ winning market share

let's not assume Google malice is _too_ competent

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by phaedrus »

bell-cot wrote: post #21

Doing a quick test (Windows 10, Firefox, NoScript, Privacy Badger) - it seems to work fine for me. FWIW, I've got NoScript blocking most of the sites that YouTube wants to use js from.

I have the "DF YouTube (Distraction Free)" Firefox extension installed, hiding anything to do with suggested videos. YouTube is working for me with Firefox on Windows 11 about the same way it has all month.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by kccqzy »

PaulHoule wrote: post #10
eadmund wrote: post #7

YouTube is barely usable on Google’s YouTube app on Google’s Pixel phones running Google’s Android OS at the moment. It used to be that if one were watching one YouTube video and followed a YouTube link to another, that one would be prompted to either enqueue that video or go to it immediately. I used that all the time to enqueue an evening’s worth of videos. Now, each link interrupts the current video and starts pla…

My take is that Google products have always punished people who have bad internet connections. 10 years ago I had a crappy DSL connection which could usually handle Netflix, Amazon Video, etc. YouTube was unreliable. Google Meet never worked well for me, even after I got my ADSL upgraded to a more reasonable 20Mbps. Zoom works fine. Skype works fine. Discord works fine. The chat built into Slack... works fine. Google…

Your take directly contradicts my personal experience. 10 years ago I had a crappy internet connection that went down to as little as 10KB/s (severe network congestion and building management didn't care). YouTube served 144p video when every other video site went down only to 240p or even 320p, which was unusable on this connection.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by BenoitEssiambre »

Imo, it's just too difficult to maintain compatibility through a natural language specification.

Things like browsers need some kind of open source reference implementation to act as a spec to maintain interoperability.

https://benoitessiambre.com/specification.html

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by kuschku »

It works perfectly fine (everything loads instantly) when I'm logged in with an account that has YouTube Premium.

But when I try using it with an account that doesn't have YouTube Premium, on the same browser, on the same hardware, everything hangs for 30+ seconds.

Hmmmmmmmmm?

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