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Pie doesn't need to be original unless you claim it so

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Re: Pie doesn't need to be original unless you claim it so

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> The friend has assumed that your goal is to "efficiently" reach the goal of a delicious pie, or perhaps even to create a new kind of pie. But that's not the goal at all! > Baking a pie is a creative act. It's personal, it's inherently delightful, it's an act of caring for others. It's also a craft that one can improve at over time. Just buying the "best" pie would defeat the point. Not sure author realises the iron…

If baking a pie isn't a craft then I don't know what is. Do you believe there is no skill involved with baking a pie?

Re: Pie doesn't need to be original unless you claim it so

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> The friend has assumed that your goal is to "efficiently" reach the goal of a delicious pie, or perhaps even to create a new kind of pie. But that's not the goal at all! > Baking a pie is a creative act. It's personal, it's inherently delightful, it's an act of caring for others. It's also a craft that one can improve at over time. Just buying the "best" pie would defeat the point. Not sure author realises the iron…

If baking a pie isn't a craft then I don't know what is. Do you believe there is no skill involved with baking a pie?

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Re: Pie doesn't need to be original unless you claim it so

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> The friend has assumed that your goal is to "efficiently" reach the goal of a delicious pie, or perhaps even to create a new kind of pie. But that's not the goal at all! > Baking a pie is a creative act. It's personal, it's inherently delightful, it's an act of caring for others. It's also a craft that one can improve at over time. Just buying the "best" pie would defeat the point. Not sure author realises the iron…

You seem to have misread "act" as "art."

Re: Pie doesn't need to be original unless you claim it so

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> The friend has assumed that your goal is to "efficiently" reach the goal of a delicious pie, or perhaps even to create a new kind of pie. But that's not the goal at all! > Baking a pie is a creative act. It's personal, it's inherently delightful, it's an act of caring for others. It's also a craft that one can improve at over time. Just buying the "best" pie would defeat the point. Not sure author realises the iron…

You seem to have misread "act" as "art."

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Re: Pie doesn't need to be original unless you claim it so

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As others have mentioned, a pie is consumable, and thus a good one has value even if it isn't original. But a slight change to the original scenario makes asking about originality much more reasonable: Imagine you write a peach pie recipe over the weekend, and you give a copy of the recipe to your friend. They respond: "Wait, how is this different from every other peach pie recipe that's ever been written? It seems r…

> When I was in a band, one of the most valuable things my songwriting friends and I did for each other was tell each other when our work sounded like something that was already out there.

I'm a big advocate for originality, but its worth noting that most bands will have covered at least one song.

> If you make a new piece of software and offer it to a friend to use, it's not unreasonable for them to ask how it's different from something that's out there already.

If you're comparing baking to software then I'd argue that the software equivalent of a recipe is going to be frameworks and the programming language. And people do very much flock towards common frameworks that are known to work well. Just like how a lot of people prefer to use recipes that are known to work rather than chancing on something unknown.

Re: Pie doesn't need to be original unless you claim it so

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Aside from duplication there's also competition. If you bake for your family, your pie will be appreciated, regardless of its novelty. But if your pie is meant to go onto a supermarket shelf alongside other pies, you need to give the consumer an incentive to choose yours - by making it better and/or different.

Yeah, the main difference is software is accessible online so it's competing on a worldwide stage. This make people feel there's an abundance of software and they get picky.

This is totally fine from economic perspective. But when it comes to side projects that aren't selling to consumers, there's no reason to bring down someone if you see no value in their work. Especially when they're sharing it for free with no expectations, like most software side projects we see here hosted on GitHub.

Look at many show HN, someone sharing their little fun project, then you've some entitled users asking

  What does this offer over this product of fortune 500 company? Why should I use it?
Often the side project still have some advantage but do these people realize how ridiculous and entitled they sound? The author shared a fun project for free, they're not asking for a billion $ investment.
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