I have yet to see a significant increase in productivity from AI. I wonder where they are extrapolating from?
They're extrapolating from their PowerPoint slides, the single source of truth from which all else is manifested.
In a leaked recording, AWS CEO tells most developers could stop coding soon
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#32So many bad takes in that article. It will be interesting to look back in 5+ years to see how things play out vs this unlimited optimism. > "everyone is a programmer now" I’ve heard this about so many things. Various tool they make everyone a programmer, or everyone a DBA. Nice dreams, that never seem to play out. Being a programmer isn’t about the syntax, it’s about breaking problems down, so they can logically be b…
I think the enterprise stuff is programmers become more tool-assisted, so fewer programmers are needed. A team of two seniors and 6 juniors can just be two seniors. As you said, it's mostly breaking down a problem and knowing what's needed, then telling it what components are needed. 'Make me a function that does this and that' I use it all the time to make things I know I can make but it makes it, if it makes it a w…
> Operations and Sysadmins I don't forsee ever changing, especially with AI.
Why not?
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am missing something, what is being said that signals incompetence?
At a very basic level, the only way the CEO could say most developers would be replaced is if he has not used state of the art code assistants. It’s either a lack of understanding the role of a developer, or of machine learning, or both. And last time I checked AWS’ AI assistant won’t even handle IAM policies. So at least those jobs should be safe.
To be fair I also really struggle with AWS IAM policies and I'm a pretty senior engineer with a lot of experience.
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#34I have yet to see a significant increase in productivity from AI. I wonder where they are extrapolating from?
yeah all I've seen so far is a very expensive but actually limited in features QoL upgrade that works for a very limited subset of the enterprise workforce.
(mostly copilot).
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#35In the last 100 years, software adoption went from non-existant to being used everywhere, so even through programmer productivity was increasing, we stil always needed more programmers. But maybe the growth of programmer productivity will be higher than the growth of software demand at some point?
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#36So many bad takes in that article. It will be interesting to look back in 5+ years to see how things play out vs this unlimited optimism. > "everyone is a programmer now" I’ve heard this about so many things. Various tool they make everyone a programmer, or everyone a DBA. Nice dreams, that never seem to play out. Being a programmer isn’t about the syntax, it’s about breaking problems down, so they can logically be b…
They despise dependencies so much. Half of there life is to get rid of them - declared as "risks" and "depending on some guy down the hall who codes really well" just makes them loose sleep at night.
And they put so much effort into this side-quest. No code, low code, everyone codes, simple languages, uml-programing,graph-based programing, so easy my intern can do it, outsourced programming, code by specs, all just to get rid of that dependency that can not be- and it never works out. The complexity was inside the company and its product all along.
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#37I'm sorry, please don't downvote me for a low-quality reply - but my only reaction after reading that is ... "sure, Jan."
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#38I’m waiting for the story where a developer says that AI is equally able to replace senior managers; I can only imagine the blustering and outrage that would result!
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#39CEO could stop manage sooner
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#40They have to say that to make the number go up. All these companies have heavily invested in AI.
AI is just another tool whose output depends on the skill of the user. You can't put people without domain knowledge in front of a LLM and get good results. It's very good at producing output that's looks good enough to convince non experts that it can do the job.