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Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Re: Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Post by geor9e »

WolfeReader wrote: post #19
nightowl_games wrote: post #14

Yeah it broke my Linux Mint. I run mint all day while developing and then switch to windows 11 to game every once in a while. I think there's a way to fix it but I had to disable secure boot to work this week. I've had way more issues with windows 11 than with linux Mint. Like way more.

As a former dual-booter, there's surprisingly few games that still require Windows. You might consider going full Linux.

I was shocked by your comment, but I also haven't kept up with PC gaming in recent years. Wow, incredible the progress Valve has made https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=releaseDate

Re: Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Post by geor9e »

kennu wrote: post #23
WolfeReader wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a former dual-booter, there's surprisingly few games that still require Windows. You might consider going full Linux.

I would say the opposite. Surprisingly many games still require Windows, at least on Steam. I can sometimes find something interesting that runs on a Linux too, but all the indie games are usually Windows only.

You're talking Native support. But go to settings in Steam and look for "Steam Play will automatically install compatibility tools that allow you to play games from your library that were built for other operating systems. Enable Steam Play for supported titles". Here's the list of how well they all work https://www.protondb.com/explore

Re: Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Post by accelbred »

geor9e wrote: post #32
kennu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say the opposite. Surprisingly many games still require Windows, at least on Steam. I can sometimes find something interesting that runs on a Linux too, but all the indie games are usually Windows only.

You're talking Native support. But go to settings in Steam and look for "Steam Play will automatically install compatibility tools that allow you to play games from your library that were built for other operating systems. Enable Steam Play for supported titles". Here's the list of how well they all work https://www.protondb.com/explore

Even most unsupported titles work. You can enable the setting to allow running unsupported games with proton as well. If a game doesnt work, you can refund it with "it doesnt run on Linux" as a reason. Of all the games Ive tried, only had to do that for three.

Re: Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Post by JohnTHaller »

tiahura wrote: post #4

Is dual booting still a thing? I haven’t seen anyone doing it in 20 years.

I have an old Dell Latitude that I tri-boot Windows 7, 10, and 11 for testing with my PortableApps.com stuff as some things are better to test on actual hardware rather than in a virtual machine.

Re: Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Post by herpdyderp »

geor9e wrote: post #31
WolfeReader wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a former dual-booter, there's surprisingly few games that still require Windows. You might consider going full Linux.

I was shocked by your comment, but I also haven't kept up with PC gaming in recent years. Wow, incredible the progress Valve has made https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=releaseDate

The only games I still have windows around for are sim racing (with wheel support). Maybe someday we’ll get those in Linux too.

Re: Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

epidemian wrote: post #9
tiahura wrote: post #4

Is dual booting still a thing? I haven’t seen anyone doing it in 20 years.

Why would it stop being a thing? I've had dual-booted until a couple of years ago, when i decided to ditch Windows for good, since i wasn't playing videogames, and the few i may wanted to play were playable on Steam. If i had needed Windows for a specific videogame or program, i would still be dual-booting today.

Well... your comment has both the question and an answer: It's quite possible that fewer people bother dual-booting because it's less needed; as WINE/proton gets better and more programs have native Linux support, the need to have a Windows install on hand diminishes.

Re: Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Post by paulmd »

b112 wrote: post #28
bigiain wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just realised writing another response, that a large portion of the reasons I need to run Windows occasionally if to use weird hardware that's windows specific. Things that run odd USB protocols, our even worse require a USB-serial converter with a specific chipset. For me, it's way easier to keep a "hardware Windows machine" available than to debug why these things don't quite work right in a virtualised environme…

I just realized that SSDs are sorta 3 1/2" floppy size. I picture turning off the machine, and popping one out of a caddy for another. The circle is vlosed.

ICY DOCK has you covered. it's kind of their thing.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0040Z924Q

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084H5ZKPT

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B9HK4QG

at only $1.72 per gram, it's the greatest bargain in the computer market today.

Re: Microsoft's latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs

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Post by b112 »

paulmd wrote: post #38
b112 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just realized that SSDs are sorta 3 1/2" floppy size. I picture turning off the machine, and popping one out of a caddy for another. The circle is vlosed.

ICY DOCK has you covered. it's kind of their thing. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0040Z924Q https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084H5ZKPT https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B9HK4QG at only $1.72 per gram, it's the greatest bargain in the computer market today.

That's huge, even though I've used some ICY products in the past.

I just meant, if the SSD was slid in and out, bare, by itself.. it would feel like a floppy experience.

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