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Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Hilarious. The article tries to go even one step further past the loss of hype, by making an additional argument that ai might not be in a hype cycle at all. Meaning they conjecture that it might not even come out of the trough of disillusion to mass adoption.

That’s gonna be a bad take I think.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

How are you using AI to double your coding productivity? Are you using ChatGPT, or Claude, or GitHub Copilot? I am an AI-skeptic, so I am curious here. Thanks!

I've tried various AI coding solutions and have found at best a mild boost but not the amazing multipliers I hear about online.

Copilot gives you some autofill that sometimes can be helpful but often not that helpful. I think the best it did for me was helping with something repetitive where I was editing a big list of things in the same way (like adding an ID to every tag in a list) and it helped take over and finish the task with a little less manual clicking.

ChatGPT has helped with small code snippets like writing a regular expression. I never got 100% regex mastery, usually I would have to look up a couple things to write one but GPT can shortcut that process. I get a little paranoid about AI provided code not actually working so I end up writing a large number of tests to check it, which could be a good thing but can feel tedious.

I'm also curious how other people are leveraging them to get more than I am. I honestly don't try too hard. At one point I did try really hard to get AI to do more heavy code lifting but was disappointed with my results so I stopped... but maybe things have improved a bit since then.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve had a lot of corporate clients this year Large and small, entire development teams are completely unaware of the basics of “prompt engineering” for coding, and corporate has an entirely regressive anti-AI policy that doesnt factor in the existence of locally run language models, and just assumes ChatGPT and cloud based ones digesting trade secrets. People arent interested in seeing what the hype is about, and ar…

I think most people outside of tech have barely even touched it. Obviously there are some savy users across all age groups and occupations. But from what Ive see its just not part of most people’s workflow.

At the same time I think Meta and big tech adding more and more cloud based inference is driving demand for the processors

OpenAI still hasnt released Sora video prompting for the general public and have already been leapfrogged by half a dozen competitors. I would say its still niche, but only as niche as using professional video editing tools are for creatives

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Good. It's decent for summarizing and giving me bullet points and explaining things like I'm 5, makes it easy to code things that I don't want to code or spend time figuring out how to do with new languages, other than that, I see no real world applications outside of listening to burger king orders and putting them on a screen for people to make them. Simple support requests, and of course making buzzword-esque docu…

Im really hoping that when this hype cycle ends and the next AI winter starts that all the generative stuff gets culled but we still see good work and tech using all the other advances (that would be described as “mere” deep learning).

Document embedding from transformers are great and fit into existing search paradigms.

Computer vision and image segmentation is at a level I thought impossible 10 years ago.

Text to speech that sounds natural? I might actually use Siri and Alexa! (Ok, that one might be considered “generative”)

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To be honest, I was surprised by ChatGPT. I didn’t think we were close. We are running out of textual data now to train on… so now they have switched to VIDEO. Geez now they can train on all the VIDEOS on the internet. And when they finally get bots working, they will have limitless streams of TACTILE data… Writing it off as the next fad seems fun. But to be honest, I was shocked by what openai did the first time. So…

> Seriously I am a 2x coder compared to what I was because of this. You probably shouldn't advertise that.

They're a 20x coder now.

Re: Artificial intelligence is losing hype

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This supposed “cycle” has been crazy it’s been about 1.5 years since gpt4 came out, which is really the first generally capable model. I think a lot of this “cycle” is media’s wishful thinking. Humans, especially humans in large bureaucracies, just don't move this quickly. Enterprises have barely had time to dip their toes in. For what it’s worth hype doesn’t mean sustainability anyway. If all the jokers go onto a ne…

I’ve had a lot of corporate clients this year Large and small, entire development teams are completely unaware of the basics of “prompt engineering” for coding, and corporate has an entirely regressive anti-AI policy that doesnt factor in the existence of locally run language models, and just assumes ChatGPT and cloud based ones digesting trade secrets. People arent interested in seeing what the hype is about, and ar…

I've seen this too and it's so weird. The vast majority are totally clueless on it.
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