Eric would probably not want to talk about how Google's leadership of which he hired at least a good half under his tenure is responsible for squandering an amazing technological and brand leadership that is now being threatened from every angle. His leadership led to the current situation, the leadership of Larry and then Sundar just continued the culture he put in place. He's simply trying to get people to focus on others because god forbid we question the work HE did as CEO.
Eric Schmidt Says Google Is Falling Behind on AI–and Remote Work Is Why
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#33The entire video was on youtube and has since been taken private. The media are taking his relatively tame opinion on work ethics and blowing it up into click-bait. His comment wasn't targeting remote work or WFH specifically - but general work ethic of companies. He praised TSMC and Musk - who are notorious for poor treatment of workers. That's all you need to know about this. If WFH or remote work to blame - why is…
He’s right, Americans won’t work like employees at TSMC in Taiwan. There were _decades_ of struggle to get eight hour per day/five day work weeks. If Elon Musk, the richest man on earth, wants to work all the time, that’s his prerogative and right. He shouldn’t be allowed to force that on his workers though.
> He shouldn’t be allowed to force that on his workers though.
If you want to work under those conditions, it should be your own prerogative. There are plenty of places to work.
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#34I dont get it. Study after study seems to indicate that remote work is more efficient all around. What is it that makes management so bearish towards remote? When Microsoft "lost the mobile war" everybody was in the office still, no? Is it conceivable that google is behind on AI for reasons other than wfh?
Because people being self-disciplined and self-motivated annihilates the management layer. What do you manage when people manage themselves? You can be a project manager or you can be out of a job. They don't like that.
I'm guessing you've never been a software engineering manager, or was one at a crappy place? The more self managing they are, the better! It turns into a coach/mentorship role at that point.
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#35I work at Apple in the Apple Services Engineering (ASE) organization and am required to go to the office at least three days a week. I don’t see the point, given that the majority of my interactions are with employees located in Cupertino or London. Often, I have to wake up very early or stay in the office after hours to join meetings with people in the London office. As a non-Cupertino Apple employee, I am excluded…
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Feels like GPT AI slop? Perhaps I am missing the irony.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
He’s right, Americans won’t work like employees at TSMC in Taiwan. There were _decades_ of struggle to get eight hour per day/five day work weeks. If Elon Musk, the richest man on earth, wants to work all the time, that’s his prerogative and right. He shouldn’t be allowed to force that on his workers though.
> He shouldn’t be allowed to force that on his workers though. If you want to work under those conditions, it should be your own prerogative. There are plenty of places to work.
There are reasons there are regulations on safety conditions and hours. He shouldn’t be able to just ignore those because he’s rich.
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#37This seems extremely self-serving on behalf of Schmidt in order to avoid any serious self-reflection of what seems to be going on at Google. I've never looked a at a Google product and thought "this sloppy product is the result of people who were more concerned about going home". I don't really care about the remote work argument, but this fight is the rug that covers the real problem. Google products are _the_ defin…
There was a recent post on here (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41239520) where someone noted that people at Google tend not to use their own products. When it was posted on X a Google Director said that they use Google software because it's a software company. Which does show part of the dysfunction - you have a lot of hardware being built by people who aren't using it.
I have no idea if similar things happen for many of their software products, but that would explain a lot behind things like GHC and how it's UX has gotten worse over time.
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#38I wish the media would use his full title:
Eric Schmidt, Bilderberg Steering Committee member, makes up excuses for why Google's AI efforts are being surpassed by open source.
https://bilderbergmeetings.org/background/steering-committee...
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#39This seems extremely self-serving on behalf of Schmidt in order to avoid any serious self-reflection of what seems to be going on at Google. I've never looked a at a Google product and thought "this sloppy product is the result of people who were more concerned about going home". I don't really care about the remote work argument, but this fight is the rug that covers the real problem. Google products are _the_ defin…
Exactly - GOOG product disfunction outside ads/search predates WFH by.. forever.
Nothing new here, just a new excuse by one of the guys that presided over it.
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#40I dont get it. Study after study seems to indicate that remote work is more efficient all around. What is it that makes management so bearish towards remote? When Microsoft "lost the mobile war" everybody was in the office still, no? Is it conceivable that google is behind on AI for reasons other than wfh?
What do you mean "more efficient all around"? Bean counting won't produce great products.