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Utah outlaws books by Judy Blume and Sarah J Maas in first statewide ban

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Re: Utah outlaws books by Judy Blume and Sarah J Maas in first statewide ban

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your point that "ban" is the wrong word because students are not banned from reading such books, even at the school library, so long as they bring their own copy? That's a very narrow and non-standard use of the term. The ban here applies to banning the school from providing such books, and I can easily find other examples where "ban" is used to describe restrictions on a school placed by the district or legislatu…

It's not a very narrow and non standard use of the term. A ban is a prohibition on doing or having something. That's been the standard definition as long as I can remember. Is Swahili banned in schools because they don't teach a Swahili class? Those are almost all hyperbolic news articles. News articles are designed to stir emotion. Just because multiple click driven publications misuse a word because it drives click…

> A school "banning" themselves from selling junk food isn't a ban,

Not relevant given that I highlighted how the schools were banned either by the district or by state law, not banning themselves.

Which would, per your definition, make it a ban.

Would you prefer seeing only scholarly publications describe it as a ban?

"Do School Junk Food Bans Improve Student Health? Evidence from Canada", in Canadian Public Policy, https://www.utpjournals.press/doi/full/10.3138/cpp.2016-090

"Examining Compliance with a Statewide Law Banning Junk Food and Beverage Marketing in Maine Schools", Public Health Reports, https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/003335491212700...

"Banning All Sugar-Sweetened Beverages in Middle Schools", Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med, https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/...

"Breaking habits: The effect of the French vending machine ban on school snacking and sugar intakes", JOURNAL OF POLICY ANALYSIS AND MANAGEMENT, https://cris.unibo.it/bitstream/11585/606157/6/CapacciS_JPAM... (this banned all vending machines from primary and secondary schools, no matter what was sold).

With a Google Scholar search I could easily give hundreds of similar citations.

> I don't sell junk food, is that a ban because you can't buy junk food from me?

Are you being serious or merely cantankerous?

If the school librarian wants to have keep a copy of the 1975 book "Forever ..." by Judy Blume in circulation, and state law prohibits it, why is that not a ban?

It is, after all, "a prohibition on doing or having something."

If a school want to have a soda vending machine on campus, because of the extra revenue it brings the school, but the district changes policy to prevent that option, why is it not a ban?

Re: Utah outlaws books by Judy Blume and Sarah J Maas in first statewide ban

#32
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In those days the second "B" of the ontological acronym must've been "Babylonian"?

Broadcasting Babylonian Cuneiform ? I guess so.

BBC's world service, at its height, provided content not just in cuneiform but also other internationally used scripts, including translations/transliterations of their most popular programme, the gardening show "Paradise in a 𒊬: big joy from small holdings".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mesopotamian_units_of_...

Re: Utah outlaws books by Judy Blume and Sarah J Maas in first statewide ban

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Calling these book bans is like claiming Facebook "bans" news in Canada. They're not going to be carried by school libraries or be part of the curriculum. You're still free to read these books and give them to your kids to read. It's like saying churches "ban" the Koran because they don't teach it in church.

You can have a ban in certain areas or times without a state-wide prohibition. Consider the sentence "In 1995, California was the first state to enact a statewide smoking ban for restaurants." at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_the_Un... . Or from a 2003 article at https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2003/10/16/french-students-f... : > DOMONT, France: French high school students are up in arms over…

The headline says that the books are "outlawed" and "banned" in Utah. Its clickbait. An accurate headline with say "Utah bans school libraries from having books by....".

The other headlines you quote specify where the ban applies (restaurants, religious services, schools). This headline does not and states it as though its a state wide prohibition.

Re: Utah outlaws books by Judy Blume and Sarah J Maas in first statewide ban

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> ...because they were considered to contain “pornographic or indecent” material Guess the christian bible isn't going to last long there then. Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_book_burnings#/media/File...

The Nazis did not like the Bible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

They were not exactly keen on Jewish saviour and scriptures written by jews!

The Bible is not popular with a lot of people now either. People have been arrested in the UK for reading aloud from offensive bits of the Bible.

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