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http://www.houseofrain.com/bookdetail.cfm?id=1183863164364 for example, the epigraph of which burned into my memory:
> There are two easy ways to die in the desert: thirst and drowning.
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That basically only happens if you do a water fast with distilled water. Regular mineral water will avoid that.
Uhmm, No... no it will not. That is dangerously incorrect. Mineral water may have a small amount of trace minerals, but it has basically zero electrolytes at relevant physiologic concentrations. Functionally, there'd be almost no difference between distilled and mineral water fasting with respect to electrolyte management. Imbalances in sodium, potassium, magnesium and calcium can get VERY serious very quickly. Miner…
This might be correct for what is considered mineralwater in the US (I honestly don't know), but 1l of typical sparkling mineralwater in Germany has about a third of your daily magnesium and calcium recommended amounts (as well as relevant amounts of a view others). https://www.gerolsteiner.de/wissensquellen/wasserwissen/mine...
And there are waters with even higher concentrations.
During dry fasting the body gets H20 from lipolysis (this is called "metabolic" water), sort of like a camel (though camels have obviously a lot of specialization for this).
Anyway, thought it was a propos, so AMA if curious.
Tendai "Marathon monks" in mount Hiei finish 1,000-day kaihōgyō with 9-day period without food, water, and sleep but they have to walk only 400m in those last 9-days. Only 46 men have finished. If I remember correctly the 9-day period was shortened to something like 6 or 7 days, because too many of them died.
While I did in the safety and chillness of my own apartment, I did a 10 day "dry" fast last year. As opposed to water fasting, with dry fasting you are not hungry AT ALL, but the thirst is something else. It's not unrelenting though, it can fade into the background if the air is humid enough and you refrain from talking too much, the mouth hydrates by itself. During dry fasting the body gets H20 from lipolysis (this…
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Uhmm, No... no it will not. That is dangerously incorrect. Mineral water may have a small amount of trace minerals, but it has basically zero electrolytes at relevant physiologic concentrations. Functionally, there'd be almost no difference between distilled and mineral water fasting with respect to electrolyte management. Imbalances in sodium, potassium, magnesium and calcium can get VERY serious very quickly. Miner…
> Mineral water may have a small amount of trace minerals, but it has basically zero electrolytes at relevant physiologic concentrations. Functionally, there'd be almost no difference between distilled and mineral water fasting with respect to electrolyte management. This might be correct for what is considered mineralwater in the US (I honestly don't know), but 1l of typical sparkling mineralwater in Germany has abo…
The GGP mentioned "regular mineral water" - but most of us (at least in the US) do not purchase bottled mineral water to drink on a day-to-day basis. Most of our water consumption, in one way or another, comes out of the tap.
While I did in the safety and chillness of my own apartment, I did a 10 day "dry" fast last year. As opposed to water fasting, with dry fasting you are not hungry AT ALL, but the thirst is something else. It's not unrelenting though, it can fade into the background if the air is humid enough and you refrain from talking too much, the mouth hydrates by itself. During dry fasting the body gets H20 from lipolysis (this…
While I did in the safety and chillness of my own apartment, I did a 10 day "dry" fast last year. As opposed to water fasting, with dry fasting you are not hungry AT ALL, but the thirst is something else. It's not unrelenting though, it can fade into the background if the air is humid enough and you refrain from talking too much, the mouth hydrates by itself. During dry fasting the body gets H20 from lipolysis (this…
This sounds incredibly dangerous
I know it's both a cliché and something that westerners often have forgotten how to do, but you can actually listen to your body and know minute by minute if you're in danger or not. For dry fasting, you are told that if you start getting persistent high heart rate you should stop.
Now what you should find intriguing is why would anyone put themselves through this? Well, it has immense and unique health benefits, that's why. It's been studied, although less than water fasting for obvious reasons. Even water fasters think we're crazy, so I understand.
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This sounds incredibly dangerous
It does indeed sound incredibly dangerous, it isn't though. Russians (and some other European nations chiefly Germany) are into fasting, though I only know about Russians organizing dry fasting retreats, like Dr. Filinov https://www.wildestvitality.com/portfolio/items/winter-2023-... I know it's both a cliché and something that westerners often have forgotten how to do, but you can actually listen to your body and kn…
> you can actually listen to your body and know minute by minute if you're in danger or not
Friend, this is all hocus pocus bogus from a crackpot doctor. Other sources even say dry fasting is rarely done today (because it's hocus pocus), even if it was once popular in the Soviet Union.
You will also notice how this crackpot doctor charges $2,200 for a supervised 2 day dry fast - not 10!
Please don't go 10 days without liquid intake - especially when you are without medial supervision for crying out loud. You cannot monitor yourself properly under these extreme conditions. Even if you survive 10 days without any liquid intake, you may (and probably will) cause irreversible damage to your body and organs.
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It does indeed sound incredibly dangerous, it isn't though. Russians (and some other European nations chiefly Germany) are into fasting, though I only know about Russians organizing dry fasting retreats, like Dr. Filinov https://www.wildestvitality.com/portfolio/items/winter-2023-... I know it's both a cliché and something that westerners often have forgotten how to do, but you can actually listen to your body and kn…
> Dr Sergey Filonov is a world leader in clinical dry fasting expertise and the successful treatment of diseases, acute illnesses, chronic disorders and undiagnosable conditions. > you can actually listen to your body and know minute by minute if you're in danger or not Friend, this is all hocus pocus bogus from a crackpot doctor. Other sources even say dry fasting is rarely done today (because it's hocus pocus), eve…
I don't care about the doctor at all, I only wanted to link to the retreat to people are doing it and paying for it.
I'm not advocating anybody do it either, and since it's so difficult, even though it's less than it appears, I don't see anyone jumping in blindly into this.
Humans are almost uniquely adapted to starvation. Dry fasting is simply a boosted form of water fasting, which is almost mainstream. There's no particular danger to a person in reasonable health. I am so I could do it by myself.