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Open Source Farming Robot

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Re: Open Source Farming Robot

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It sill looks like the software is written by people who don't know how to care for plants. You don't spray water on leaves as shown in the video; you'll just end up with fungus infestation. You water the soil and nourish the microorganisms that facilitate nutrient absorption in roots. But, I don't see any reason the technology can't be adapted to do the right thing.

Doesn't rain fall on the leaves as much as the soil?

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

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It's written in Elixir. Maybe it's just a grass-is-greener thing but the more Kubernetes I have to stomach, the more interested I become in BEAM languages like Elixir. Not like they're alternatives exactly, but I get the feeling that the BEAM way is to solve the ops problems in a way resembles how you solved your dev problems. More holistic, less ad hoc.

See here: https://github.com/FarmBot

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

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How many Farmbots would I need to feed 2 adults and 2 children year round? What challenges might I run into? Edit: Found a link to yield analysis https://farm.bot/pages/yield It appears the answer is however many Farmbots cover 549 square meters

so 31 farmbots at 3m x 6m? a bit steep still, plus the maintenance nightmare of keeping 31 machines working.. it's a fun farm to envisage though. p.s. I don't think that this gantry has very harsh stiffness requirements; I guess one could scale the thing to a larger size reasonably easy -- akin to a configurable MPCNC machine.

Seems like to scale well the gantry needs to be able to travel between grow boxes, like on a continuous track.

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd be better off doing the farming the old fashioned way if the goal is to feed a family. Farming is a terrible business to be in today, but that's mainly due to the abysmal profit margins. When your goal is to feed your family rather than turn a profit, that stops mattering. Most people with any yard or outdoor space could get to the point of growing/raising a large portion of their own food without too much inve…

I've talked about this on this site over the years. My family is close to providing enough food on its own little farm for the whole family, all year (except dairy products and wheat products). It has taken decades. And about 15 acres. And honestly I don't know how many hours. Tens and tens of thousands. You can grow a small amount of your own food "without too much investment or work". To replace a substantial porti…

That's interesting, I've had a very different experience. Maybe it comes down, partially, to a difference in climate?

We're on a larger piece of land actually, mainly because we have cattle that we may eventually use for meat and dairy. Were producing a large chunk of our food on about 1 acre though, and even then most of that is non-productive land around our house.

We have chickens that give us 6-7 eggs every day. Our garden is 2,500 square feet but well be expanding it a bit for next year. We're very hands off with our garden, though, compared to how most people do it. We don't till, partly to avoid any potential disturbance to the soil and partly out of laziness. We did have to water too much for a couple weeks in June, but that is about it for this year.

We haven't hit the 80-90% goal yet but are on track for that next year, our third year here. Right now I'd estimate us at around 40-50% with the rest supplemented mainly from local farms.

It is work, no doubt about it, especially if you aren't used to working outside. I haven't yet felt like the amount of work has blown past what it costs to buy groceries from the store though, and bonus that we know it's all local without any pesticide or herbicide use.

We live in the southeast US now, the climate is helpful for farming. I lived in Seattle for a few years and that climate would have been much harder to work with. I don't particularly like the task of preserving foods, here we don't need to do nearly as much of that.

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

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How many Farmbots would I need to feed 2 adults and 2 children year round? What challenges might I run into? Edit: Found a link to yield analysis https://farm.bot/pages/yield It appears the answer is however many Farmbots cover 549 square meters

You'd be better off doing the farming the old fashioned way if the goal is to feed a family. Farming is a terrible business to be in today, but that's mainly due to the abysmal profit margins. When your goal is to feed your family rather than turn a profit, that stops mattering. Most people with any yard or outdoor space could get to the point of growing/raising a large portion of their own food without too much inve…

It doesn't need to be ready for Instagram but you need to keep weeds under control, you need to keep insects under control, and you need to keep deer, rabbits, and other veggie-loving animals away or barricaded. You also need to provide irrigation when needed, and of course harvest the vegetables when they are ready. It's quite a bit of work if you want to maximize your harvest. Any kind of serious vegetable garden probably demands at least an hour a day of your time, large gardens may require much more than that.

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

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How many Farmbots would I need to feed 2 adults and 2 children year round? What challenges might I run into? Edit: Found a link to yield analysis https://farm.bot/pages/yield It appears the answer is however many Farmbots cover 549 square meters

In all seriousness, from a real life feeding people farming perspective, it's well short of sufficient unto itself.

It's a lightweight gantry system for seeding, watering, and (chemical spray) weeding.

Handy for big seeding greenhouses and some leafy greens.

It's not going to significantly help with you apple, lemon, orange, fig, grapefruit and etc. trees.

It's not going to significantly help with your potatoes and other root vegetables.

It's not going to tend to and protect your lambs, goats, chickens, etc.

FWiW I do have one spry old chap born n 1935 who can do all that already, has a few decades of experience, and can feed an easy magnitude more than just four.

Fun project, needs a wee bit of work.

And, there are scaled up Farm bots for farms, not just for oversized regular garden beds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqqOQdDBUwQ

https://www.sydney.edu.au/engineering/news-and-events/news/2...

https://www.agricultural-robotics.com/news/connectivity-in-a...

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

#37
post #30

It sill looks like the software is written by people who don't know how to care for plants. You don't spray water on leaves as shown in the video; you'll just end up with fungus infestation. You water the soil and nourish the microorganisms that facilitate nutrient absorption in roots. But, I don't see any reason the technology can't be adapted to do the right thing.

Doesn't rain fall on the leaves as much as the soil?

Isn't the point of being smart human beings is that we do things better than what occurs in nature?

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't rain fall on the leaves as much as the soil?

Isn't the point of being smart human beings is that we do things better than what occurs in nature?

That assumes that rain falling on leaves serves no purpose.

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

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post #30

It sill looks like the software is written by people who don't know how to care for plants. You don't spray water on leaves as shown in the video; you'll just end up with fungus infestation. You water the soil and nourish the microorganisms that facilitate nutrient absorption in roots. But, I don't see any reason the technology can't be adapted to do the right thing.

Doesn't rain fall on the leaves as much as the soil?

I think it’s the difference in frequency. There’s likely other factors too, I’d suppose rain purges mold spores from the air for example, as it does with particulate pollution.

Re: Open Source Farming Robot

#40
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've talked about this on this site over the years. My family is close to providing enough food on its own little farm for the whole family, all year (except dairy products and wheat products). It has taken decades. And about 15 acres. And honestly I don't know how many hours. Tens and tens of thousands. You can grow a small amount of your own food "without too much investment or work". To replace a substantial porti…

That's interesting, I've had a very different experience. Maybe it comes down, partially, to a difference in climate? We're on a larger piece of land actually, mainly because we have cattle that we may eventually use for meat and dairy. Were producing a large chunk of our food on about 1 acre though, and even then most of that is non-productive land around our house. We have chickens that give us 6-7 eggs every day.…

> We live in the southeast US now, the climate is helpful for farming. I lived in Seattle for a few years and that climate would have been much harder to work with.

Because of (a lack of) winter sunlight? Or something else?

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