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Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by nickstinemates » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:51 PM UTC

hangonhn wrote: post #30

Deukhoofd wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Large chunks of it are still running on .NET, but nowadays, that's an open source cross-platform framework, so they're running it on Linux, mostly within containers.

Do you know their reasoning for doing it on Linux? Bigger ecosystem? Performance? I can't imagine licensing fees being an issue.

The choice of Linux was controversial when Azure was built. It caused a huge issue with the Windows Server team. But it's what customers wanted, and Azure was built very pragmatically.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by nickstinemates » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:51 PM UTC

JackSlateur wrote: post #22

gchamonlive wrote: post #2

Am I suffering from confirmation bias from HN bubble, or is Microsoft really going downhill?

When was the last time Microsoft was significantly better than the competition (on the tech side) ? To my knowledge, they always were between average and terrible, compared to their competitors

May we all aspire to be average and terrible and also the most valuable company in the world.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by bobbob1921 » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:52 PM UTC

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by SoftTalker » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:56 PM UTC

bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

Crowdstrike caused a Microsoft outage. Most people don't differentiate.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by SoftTalker » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:58 PM UTC

nickstinemates wrote: post #31

hangonhn wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know their reasoning for doing it on Linux? Bigger ecosystem? Performance? I can't imagine licensing fees being an issue.

The choice of Linux was controversial when Azure was built. It caused a huge issue with the Windows Server team. But it's what customers wanted, and Azure was built very pragmatically.

Hotmail ran on Unix for years after Microsoft acquired it. It took quite some time for them to migrate it to Windows server.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by vel0city » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 4:59 PM UTC

SoftTalker wrote: post #34

bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

Crowdstrike caused a Microsoft outage. Most people don't differentiate.

Crowdstrike caused a Crowdstrike outage for systems running Crowdstrike. The vast majority of Microsoft products and services were not affected.

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by lousken » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 5:03 PM UTC

bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

There was an outage just before crowdstrike, google MO821132

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by number6 » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 5:05 PM UTC

SoftTalker wrote: post #34

bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

Crowdstrike caused a Microsoft outage. Most people don't differentiate.

At the same time there was a Microsoft Azure outage, but it was minor compared to Croudstrike

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by hughesjj » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 5:09 PM UTC

bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

The day before crowdstrike a bunch of Azure services were down in us-central-1 and devops was down globally AFAIK

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41000822

Re: Microsoft apologises after thousands report new outage

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Post by jerrymcflurry » Tue, Jul 30, 2024, 5:15 PM UTC

SoftTalker wrote: post #34

bobbob1921 wrote: post #33

How is this “another” Microsoft outage? I assume the first outage the article is referring to was the crowdstrike issue (not a Microsoft caused issue). Or perhaps I’m not aware of a different non-crowdstrike Microsoft outage recently?

Crowdstrike caused a Microsoft outage. Most people don't differentiate.

No they haven't. It's Crowdstrike's bug but it's Microsoft's problem that they accepted a change in their kernel without testing.