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Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by rieter »

demetris wrote: post #13

Opera 12 is the first third-party web browser for Windows to offer an official 64-bit version. (Neither Firefox nor Chrome have official 64-bit versions for Windows. And I think Safari for Windows doesn’t have one either.) Does this translate to any substantial improvements in speed? Does anyone here know of any benchmarks?

64-bit is not really useful for browsers with multi-process architecture like Chrome. It is very unlikely that a single tab will need 64-bit address space.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by antihero »

cmelbye wrote: post #3

I don't know why I would ever switch from Chrome or Safari to Opera. On a Mac, Opera still has text rendering issues ( http://imgur.com/a/9bK1j ), scrolling stutters, and there's a noticeable difference in page load speed (Opera is much slower than Chrome, at least on my computer).

Text rendering looks horrific here on Linux, too!

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by sgift »

zxzwa wrote: post #29

I'm a opera user and I was excited to see this news! So I've downloaded the 12th version and went on to test it in the shining page. But it says that my browser is not supported? http://www.shinydemos.com/touch-tracker/ -- Your browser doesn’t support all required features: Touch Events. Anyone has the same issue?

Same issue here, but I have the desktop version and touch events sounds like something which will only work on a tablet/smartphone.

Edit: I've checked the w3 page - it is indeed for touch-enabled devices. Did you test it on a tablet/smartphone?

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by Tomis02 »

zxzwa wrote: post #29

I'm a opera user and I was excited to see this news! So I've downloaded the 12th version and went on to test it in the shining page. But it says that my browser is not supported? http://www.shinydemos.com/touch-tracker/ -- Your browser doesn’t support all required features: Touch Events. Anyone has the same issue?

If I'm not mistaken, "touch events" is a feature for tablets or mobiles. https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/Touch_events It will probably not be included soon for the desktop version of Opera.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by Tomis02 »

ekianjo wrote: post #22
grotos wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extensions were introduced in 11 version almost two years ago. Now Opera is ditching widgets and unite to focus on extenions.

I just read that on their main page. Are they getting a lot of support from developpers for extensions ?

Pretty much. What do you need?

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by dsirijus »

I extensively test my webs manually on basically all relevant browsers, up to few old versions, and on different OS' and devices.

My conclusion is that Chrome on Windows 7 is by far the most 'snappy' and Firefox on any OS most 'dev friendly' (even though Chrome is coming along that way very nicely).

That being said, Opera on mobile is very fine, but I still prefer using whatever stock browser is on particular device. Everything else is a little buggy.

What I found lacking in any of the browsers is the developer friendliness on mobile devices. Anyone has any recommendations on that?

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by Spittie »

I really like Opera. I've used it for months, but every time i just come back to Firefox. One big problem (for me) it's their release cycle. I know that many people hate the fast releases of Firefox and Chrome, but this way i get new features sooner than Opera. Another problem are addons. I'm an heavy Scriptish/Stylish user, and there aren't equivalents for those in Opera. I know that i can enable the userscript folder and copy scripts here, but I'm honestly too lazy to do it, and loading CSS through javascript is just not fast enough. Then there are the nitpicks. For example, on Firefox/Chrome "right click > search on google" open a new tab, on Opera it load Google in the current tab. Or, on Firefox/Chrome middle-clicking on the back button open the previous page in a new tab. On Opera this just doesn't work (at least, until Opera 11.64 - I haven't tried Opera 12 yet). And Opera is not opensource. While it's not a so big deal for me, i prefer to use opensource applications when i can.

There are also features that i would love to see on Firefox. Tab Stacking is awesome, way better than Panorama. I really like also how Opera put the tab bar on the left, I find it better than Tree Style Tab.

I'll try the new version later, but i doubt that the new features will be worth a switch for me.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by JohannL »

cmelbye wrote: post #3

I don't know why I would ever switch from Chrome or Safari to Opera. On a Mac, Opera still has text rendering issues ( http://imgur.com/a/9bK1j ), scrolling stutters, and there's a noticeable difference in page load speed (Opera is much slower than Chrome, at least on my computer).

The bookmark management, hands down. Other browsers are for testing and sites that don't work well in Opera; while Opera is for organizing all of the things, especially with things like nicknames for bookmarks and created searches. It also has plenty of themes which actually change how much space stuff takes up... hmm, it's kinda like KDE versus Gnome, with Opera being KDE ^^ There may be apps for Gnome to make it more configurable, but that's just not the same...

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by Tomis02 »

Spittie wrote: post #37

I really like Opera. I've used it for months, but every time i just come back to Firefox. One big problem (for me) it's their release cycle. I know that many people hate the fast releases of Firefox and Chrome, but this way i get new features sooner than Opera. Another problem are addons. I'm an heavy Scriptish/Stylish user, and there aren't equivalents for those in Opera. I know that i can enable the userscript fold…

> For example, on Firefox/Chrome "right click > search on google" open a new tab, on Opera it load Google in the current tab.

In Opera Ctrl+Click opens a new tab, Ctrl+Shift+Click opens a new tab in the background. It's not a new feature. Learn to play your class. ;)

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