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An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

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Re: An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

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Post by solardev »

This a flashback to the DOS era for me, or CLI utils like 'top'. I can't quite express why, but I find it a bit ugly and vaguely annoying. Probably reminds me too much of unstyled spreadsheets, or maybe I've just been brainwashed by modern trends...

Regardless, I guess my primary gripe with it is the cognitive overload. A bunch of numbers (stocks? not sure) and names that all look the same, sometimes with different color end digits (why is the zero gray sometimes), in a vast sea of information but no context. What is the most important item at any given time? What do I need to pay attention to? I mostly just glaze over and tune it out because there's way too much going on.

I get that it's an experiment (and ultimately a preference). Just not my thing, I guess.

Re: An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

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Post by mattlondon »

breck wrote: post #22

I love information density! I collect old newspapers and back then info density was way higher (for an _amazing_ coffee table book, google "nytimes complete front pages"). So much critical info above the fold. I think high information density === high intelligence. Getting sort priorities right is very valuable and important. The past few years the web seemed to be going the other way. Good to see people still rowing…

> I think high information density === high intelligence.

Just packing loads of stuff on-screen at once, with tiny fonts and tiny margins and all the rest presents a lot of accessibility issues, even for intelligent people.

Google et al are adding padding and white space to make their UIs more accessible for more people. It's not just eye sight we're talking here, but also physical issues with clicking/tapping small targets accurately (e.g. someone with Parkinson's), and also neuro divergent issues where a page full of text or whatever can disorient just by sheer amount of stuff happening on-screen at once (e.g. epilepsy)

You can be very intelligent, but still benefit from well-designed and accessible UIs. Don't assume people who need it are less intelligent.

Re: An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

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Post by ladberg »

PhilipRoman wrote: post #27

Love the cube view! Tangentially related - anyone know a linux tool which takes a bunch of points/lines/labels as input and generates a nice interactive 3d view of it? I've considered using .obj file viewers, but it doesn't quite hit the mark. Gnuplot is nicer but doesn't have interactive features as far as I can tell.

I love plotly for all my graphics needs (mainly 2D but supports 3D too)! Can export to a standalone interactive html file, can be used as a pandas plotting backend, can be easily extended with some client-side JS if you want to add more interactivity to the final result

Re: An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

#35

Post by kristjansson »

razodactyl wrote: post #15
jeffbee wrote: post #13

This obviously does not fit "as much data on a screen as possible". My laptop has a 7.7 megapixel display and each pixel has 1 billion possible states. This page is putting maybe 10000 bits of information on the screen, not even scratching the surface of machine's capacity.

I hate that this can be taken seriously even though it's obviously a joke. It's a joke right?

This is the future. Traders staring at 60hz rainbow static and making completely grounded, data driven trades.

Re: An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

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Post by klaussilveira »

solardev wrote: post #31

This a flashback to the DOS era for me, or CLI utils like 'top'. I can't quite express why, but I find it a bit ugly and vaguely annoying. Probably reminds me too much of unstyled spreadsheets, or maybe I've just been brainwashed by modern trends... Regardless, I guess my primary gripe with it is the cognitive overload. A bunch of numbers (stocks? not sure) and names that all look the same, sometimes with different c…

You are thinking about this from a end-user perspective, not a power user. It's the difference between eToro and Active Trader Pro. Or Fidelity's own app and their Active Trader Pro. There's is no right and wrong, they just target different audiences with different priorities.

That's why we like btop and htop, but a normal PC user wouldn't understand anything.

Re: An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

#37

Post by ctippett »

On mobile, if I zoom out to 85% everything gets smaller and more things fit on the screen (great!). Zooming out further to 75% makes everything larger... 50% and things get larger still (more so than they were at their default size at 100%).

The layout works remarkably well on mobile regardless, but I wasn't expecting such unintuitive zoom behaviour.

Re: An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

#38

Post by TehShrike »

solardev wrote: post #31

This a flashback to the DOS era for me, or CLI utils like 'top'. I can't quite express why, but I find it a bit ugly and vaguely annoying. Probably reminds me too much of unstyled spreadsheets, or maybe I've just been brainwashed by modern trends... Regardless, I guess my primary gripe with it is the cognitive overload. A bunch of numbers (stocks? not sure) and names that all look the same, sometimes with different c…

I wonder if it would feel less annoying if the majority of the text was a bit higher contrast

Re: An experiment in UI density created with Svelte

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Post by hollerith »

ctippett wrote: post #37

On mobile, if I zoom out to 85% everything gets smaller and more things fit on the screen (great!). Zooming out further to 75% makes everything larger... 50% and things get larger still (more so than they were at their default size at 100%). The layout works remarkably well on mobile regardless, but I wasn't expecting such unintuitive zoom behaviour.

>I wasn't expecting such unintuitive zoom behaviour.

Huh. I expect user-interface surprises on web pages. Interacting with the other user interfaces in my life is much less surprising.

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