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Decline of Indian vultures

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Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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Question: Did another animal take the role of the vultures? Nature is very efficient. If there opportunity, it seems like some animals might evolve to fill that role.

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This is really one of the worst memes to have infected online discourse.

If you have something worthwile to add say it insteady making yourself look like a fool in your attempt to mock the person you are replying to.

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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It's fascinating and tragic how AI generated comments are obviously present in this comment section. Anyone else find it unsurprising that this happens? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41078496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41095522

It's the same in a few subreddits I frequent as well. Loads of accounts, all a couple of days old, all making the same or similar comments in a tone of voice that is completely different from the tone people usually use in those subreddits. If these incredibly-obvious no-content non-comments are the best that LLMs can do I think our jobs are safe.

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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This is really one of the worst memes to have infected online discourse. If you have something worthwile to add say it insteady making yourself look like a fool in your attempt to mock the person you are replying to.

I’d like to see a return to having the balls to stand by our low effort comments without couching them in meme format like the olden days.

This format just means “ur wrong” and we used to have the spine to say that.

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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Oh... why... oh why... I will never understand such behavior. What are incentives here?

I'd imagine there are monetary incentives to having many accounts able to boost you and keep your post on the front page. Doing that with brand new accounts who have no comments and no karma is probably harder. In the cases listed, all the comments were heavily downvoted but there are other bots out there who have a positive karma.

FWiW this network slid in unnoticed and unflagged in the past 20 days until someone noticed and pointed them out.

eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41024612 (9 days ago)

Since then they're mostly rapidly auto-flagged.

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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It's fascinating and tragic how AI generated comments are obviously present in this comment section. Anyone else find it unsurprising that this happens? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41078496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41095522

Maybe to establish a ring of accounts that duck underneath the vote ring detection metrics and that you can then use to upvote people’s stories? (For a small fee of course) This attempt probably will be flagged by dang since you called it out, but given enough effort they may even construct bots that generate the proper curious discussion that we like here, and have a small (but lucrative) rounding error in voting be…

Yeah, built up over time for astro turfing and pushing narratives.

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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post #8

It's fascinating and tragic how AI generated comments are obviously present in this comment section. Anyone else find it unsurprising that this happens? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41078496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41095522

It's the same in a few subreddits I frequent as well. Loads of accounts, all a couple of days old, all making the same or similar comments in a tone of voice that is completely different from the tone people usually use in those subreddits. If these incredibly-obvious no-content non-comments are the best that LLMs can do I think our jobs are safe.

> If these incredibly-obvious no-content non-comments are the best that LLMs can do I think our jobs are safe

I think we have to look at these as an early iteration. These bots are only going to get better and better.

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the same in a few subreddits I frequent as well. Loads of accounts, all a couple of days old, all making the same or similar comments in a tone of voice that is completely different from the tone people usually use in those subreddits. If these incredibly-obvious no-content non-comments are the best that LLMs can do I think our jobs are safe.

> If these incredibly-obvious no-content non-comments are the best that LLMs can do I think our jobs are safe I think we have to look at these as an early iteration. These bots are only going to get better and better.

ah the classic " This is just the beginning" argument driving the hype. Have you considered that this might all that we will ever get?

chatgpt-4o after much hype, billions of dollars and years later didn't improve much in terms of core intelligence of its responses.

I guess thats not enough for "AGI is coming because we have chatbot" crowd.

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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post #8

It's fascinating and tragic how AI generated comments are obviously present in this comment section. Anyone else find it unsurprising that this happens? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41078496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41095522

I wonder why it is in this comment section and under this specific topic

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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post #9
post #8

It's fascinating and tragic how AI generated comments are obviously present in this comment section. Anyone else find it unsurprising that this happens? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41078496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41095522

Oh... why... oh why... I will never understand such behavior. What are incentives here?

To see how far way from AGI we are. Those comments get immedietly flagged but they probably hope one day they will be top voted comments.

Re: Decline of Indian vultures

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If these incredibly-obvious no-content non-comments are the best that LLMs can do I think our jobs are safe I think we have to look at these as an early iteration. These bots are only going to get better and better.

ah the classic " This is just the beginning" argument driving the hype. Have you considered that this might all that we will ever get? chatgpt-4o after much hype, billions of dollars and years later didn't improve much in terms of core intelligence of its responses. I guess thats not enough for "AGI is coming because we have chatbot" crowd.

We don’t need anything nearing AGI for these bots to become nearly indistinguishable from humans and to have increasing impact on communities.

I think it’s utterly fascinating how quickly people have lost sight of current reality, either by believing AGI must be around the corner, or by being sure it absolutely isn’t. Assuming 4o is the most advanced model we ever have, the point still stands. Many of the poorly built bots would blend in much more effectively with iteration on their prompting and design and by more effectively using existing services.

I personally think we’re decades away from AGI (if we ever get there), but that has nothing to do with this.

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