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OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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So, Google already does this, right? And most of the feedback I've seen is: "how the hell do we turn this off".

It would be cool if it could collect and aggregate information.

"What is the mean and standard deviation of the AQI along the current fastest driving route from Palo Alto to Lassen National Park, averaged over the driving time"

"What is the easternmost supermarket before Yosemite that is at least 2000sqft in size"

etc

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

#32
post #9

Being a separate product I wonder if they plan to introduce advertising in ways that they couldn’t with ChatGPT.

According to the article: this separate product is ephemeral, it’s a prototype and eventually the idea is what it does will become part of ChatGPT.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

#33

I've been using Perplexity for the past 3 months on a regular basis and it has replaced DDG for most use cases. It's really nice to have answers directly. Product comparison/updates/features: > What's the difference in speedo latex cap vs elastomeric? > What's new in iOS 18 Beta 4? Documentation (esp for non-mainstream tools): > How do i find the sioyek db files? How do I move it to my local iCloud folder instead? I'…

My beef with perplexity is that there is no way to increase the number of uses of large models.

People keep telling me that I can use the smaller models, but I really can't. I'm using this for work and those things are toys which just game bench marks.

I'd love to give them an api key from openai or anthropic and get uses to my hearts content like phind does.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

#34
post #25

I really dislike this as OpenAI has spent the past months signing sweetheart deals with any publisher willing to sell their content for training data. It ties everything to their platform and returns a regurgitation of prioritized content without indicating any sort of sponsorship. SEO will be replaced by cold hard cash, favors, and backroom deals

>SEO will be replaced by cold hard cash, favors, and backroom deals Maybe it's my pessimistic nature, but it's garbage either way to me - backroom deals in your scenario, or the SEO-gameified garbage we currently have.

Can't believe unfettered greed and self-interest would ruin something like this.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with the Google one is accuracy. It told people to eat rocks. OpenAI just needs to beat that.

Obvious errors make for good comedy and create obvious moments for reflection on what is actually being done. Subtle errors lead to fractured realities.

Google makes shittons of the subtle variety now as well.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

#36
post #7

So, Google already does this, right? And most of the feedback I've seen is: "how the hell do we turn this off".

The problem with the Google one is accuracy. It told people to eat rocks. OpenAI just needs to beat that.

It appears from the demo example, OpenAI is not winning in the accuracy department either: https://x.com/kifleswing/status/1816542216678179083

> In ChatGPT's recent search engine announcement, they ask for "music festivals in Boone North Carolina in august"

> There are five results in the example image in the ChatGPT blog post :

> 1: Festival in Boone ... that ends July 27 ... ChatGPT's dates are when the box office is closed [X] 2: A festival in Swannanoa, two hours away from Boone, closer to Asheville [X] 3. Free Friday night summer concerts at a community center (not a festival but close enough) [O] 4. The website to a local venue [X] 5. A festival that takes place in June, although ChatGPT's summary notes this. [Shrug]

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

#37
post #25

I really dislike this as OpenAI has spent the past months signing sweetheart deals with any publisher willing to sell their content for training data. It ties everything to their platform and returns a regurgitation of prioritized content without indicating any sort of sponsorship. SEO will be replaced by cold hard cash, favors, and backroom deals

>SEO will be replaced by cold hard cash, favors, and backroom deals Maybe it's my pessimistic nature, but it's garbage either way to me - backroom deals in your scenario, or the SEO-gameified garbage we currently have.

At least with "SEO-gameified garbage" the little guy has a chance to compete by learning the SEO game.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

#38

GG Google and I couldn't be more pleased. It may not be this specific iteration that kills it, but a search product with AI (and without trash) is what will dethrone it. I'm already using ChatGPT for ~30% of the queries I used to use Google for. I prefer hallucinations to ads, to be honest. They were right to call Code Red when GPT came out, but their response to it has been extremely poor, even when they had all the…

ChatGPT is like a drunk expert. It says the correct words but might completely wrong. I've had some funny instances of it hallucinating.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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I really dislike this as OpenAI has spent the past months signing sweetheart deals with any publisher willing to sell their content for training data. It ties everything to their platform and returns a regurgitation of prioritized content without indicating any sort of sponsorship. SEO will be replaced by cold hard cash, favors, and backroom deals

> SEO will be replaced by cold hard cash, favors, and backroom deals

Maybe this reflects my biases, but isn't that was SEO has been from the get go? Like, from the moment someone had the idea that they could influence search engine results in their favor and charge money for those services, SEO has been purely negative for internet users simply trying to find the most fitting results for their query.

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