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Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by jonathanstrange »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #21
tiernano wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they not write it?

Is the US behind everything that is done with software created by American companies?

This is a misleading question because we're not talking about any kind of software. This kind of spyware is generally treated like a weapon and only sold to befriended government entities on an expensive per-seat basis. It often falls under arms-control exporting conditions, though I don't know about the specific regulations in Israel.

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by yieldcrv »

tsimionescu wrote: post #10
PestoDiRucola wrote: post #5

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The fact that's it's an Israeli spyware is surely evidence (but not proof) Israel could be behind it.

Corporations are people in Israel too, outside of communist state capitalist countries the default is to assume they are separate from the government

Exploit discussion is no different

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by jonathanstrange »

anigbrowl wrote: post #20
Yoric wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I wonder which other nations are known for the development and commercialization of such tools. North Korea and Russia spring to mind.

Annex 2 of the 2022 "Pegasus and surveillance spyware" report for the EU parliament lists a number of software names.[1] By looking up the companies or countries who make them you can probably find out more.

For your convenience, I quote the Annex:

Among the various spyware and surveillance products that are on the market, the following are mentioned in publicly available reports: Pegasus by NSO group, Cobwebs Technologies, Cognyte, Black Cube, Blue Hawk CI, BellTroX, Cytrox107, Predator, Candiru, Reign / QuaDream, Paragon108; Dark Basin, Circles system, SS7 attack, Cobalt Strike, FinSpy, NetWire, P6 intercept, Galileo, PC 360, Karma, Epeius, StealthAgent, Crimson, Invisible Man, Unlimited Interception System, Skylock, Windshield, Phoreal, Soundbite, OceanLotus tester, Ocean Lotus encryptor, Ocean Lotus Cloudrunner, Ocean Lotus MAC, Komprogo. Among the companies mentioned : Cellebrite, FinFisher, Blue Coat, Hacking Team, CyberPoint, L3 Technologies, Verint and of course NSO Group.

[1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2022/7322...

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by sparky_z »

tsimionescu wrote: post #11
spoonjim wrote: post #3

Interesting that they named their company after the Amazonian fish that can supposedly swim up your penis and lodge itself inside

Seems to be a pattern in these circles - there's at least also Palantir, named after the crystal ball that corrupted Saruman in The Lord of the Rings.

What on earth do you consider the common thread between those two names?

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by krembo »

surfingdino wrote: post #26
tsimionescu wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that's it's an Israeli spyware is surely evidence (but not proof) Israel could be behind it.

It could be Israel or an entity that purchased a licence. One way or another Israelis probably know who it was.

I'm an "Israeli" and I have no clue who it was.

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by stanac »

sparky_z wrote: post #34
tsimionescu wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be a pattern in these circles - there's at least also Palantir, named after the crystal ball that corrupted Saruman in The Lord of the Rings.

What on earth do you consider the common thread between those two names?

Both are "evil". (edit: I am not the poster you replied to)

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by trueismywork »

throwawaydummy wrote: post #6
chmod775 wrote: post #2

Sounds more like it missed. They sent him a link, and he was wise enough to not click on it.

Don’t we live in a world where zero click exploits are a thing? I thought the target didn’t have to click the links just receive them

That's why I disable HTML in emails

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by Rinzler89 »

cen4 wrote: post #38
OhioMan2943 wrote: post #13

I notice issues relating to these groups (israeli cyber groups) are very quick to be denied or delegitimised on HN

Are there sites like HN out of EU covering EU related news?

There's nothing exactly like HN out there. But EU tech. news sites exist (most have a linux focus though and you'll need to use machine translation):

https://www.theregister.com/

https://linuxnews.de/

https://www.root.cz/

https://www.golem.de/

https://www.heise.de/ct

https://www.computerbase.de/

https://gnulinux.ch/

https://www.linux-magazin.de/

Re: EU parliament member hit by Israeli Candiru spyware

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Post by impossiblefork »

yieldcrv wrote: post #32
tsimionescu wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that's it's an Israeli spyware is surely evidence (but not proof) Israel could be behind it.

Corporations are people in Israel too, outside of communist state capitalist countries the default is to assume they are separate from the government Exploit discussion is no different

Not for defence stuff. For war/defence stuff, you must have approval; and systems for acquiring information from phones and computers intended to be secure from that is war/defence stuff.

If this weren't state-approved spying by Israel, then these people would be in jail.

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