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How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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Like a lot. Didn't YC even fund that startup that wanted to turn middle class suburban homeowners into slumlords by building rental poverty shacks in their back yards?

I don’t know what startup you are mocking, but this is a very bad faith way to characterize building ADUs cheaply. You don’t know the first thing about housing, besides making drama about it.

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Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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The weird thing with AI startups is the funding is kind of smoke and mirrors. So much of the funding is tied up in NVDA, MSFT, GOOGL, or AMZN incentives that the actual cash value is... murky. May be hard to pay salaries with GPU credits.

GPU credits are certainly paying salaries at NVDA.

https://justdario.com/2024/05/no-nvidia-is-only-one-piece-of...

Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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post #21

It's not just AI startups. It's almost all of them. The startup world is just a massive pump and dump scheme, and so it moves from field to field finding the next hotness. Self-driving cars, VR, EVs, AI, and so on. People soon realize that you can't just take a bunch of hipster tech employees and suddenly create non-solutions that need to have problems created for them to even be solutions, much less choosing extreme…

I dunno, for all the perceived (and real) failures, the last few generations of these experiments have spawned some of the highest earning, and arguably transformative, companies in history.

Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, I didn’t realize that the “Bro” app from Silicon Valley was based off of a real app.

I think that might have been Yo, which I actually enjoyed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_(app) super dystopian channels got setup on there like get a yo everytime a missle alert came in Israel

I think that might have been Yo...

Ya think? I mean, whatever could parent be referring to? :-)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41037336 (or let your eyes go drift four lines above your own comment).

Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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The weird thing with AI startups is the funding is kind of smoke and mirrors. So much of the funding is tied up in NVDA, MSFT, GOOGL, or AMZN incentives that the actual cash value is... murky. May be hard to pay salaries with GPU credits.

And how many of these companies' customers are just other VC funded startups burning money and buying services adjacent to their own? Like a bigger circle.

yes that’s the real bubble here. it’s practically a pyramid scheme owned by the hyperscalers.

Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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post #33
post #21

It's not just AI startups. It's almost all of them. The startup world is just a massive pump and dump scheme, and so it moves from field to field finding the next hotness. Self-driving cars, VR, EVs, AI, and so on. People soon realize that you can't just take a bunch of hipster tech employees and suddenly create non-solutions that need to have problems created for them to even be solutions, much less choosing extreme…

I dunno, for all the perceived (and real) failures, the last few generations of these experiments have spawned some of the highest earning, and arguably transformative, companies in history.

Which ones?

Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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The weird thing with AI startups is the funding is kind of smoke and mirrors. So much of the funding is tied up in NVDA, MSFT, GOOGL, or AMZN incentives that the actual cash value is... murky. May be hard to pay salaries with GPU credits.

The recent Mistral announcement is telling, the model was trained as a "collaboration" with NVidia.

Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

#38

But overall this is good. Why should we complain? Why would I rather have VCs hoarding their capital?

because it has positive economic externalities and avoids the moral hazard of enabling hucksters.

i have no problem with investment, but investing in an obviously stupid startup just cause they were launched by a friend's kids doesn't seem like a way to allocate capital that Adam Smith would appreciate.

Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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post #21

It's not just AI startups. It's almost all of them. The startup world is just a massive pump and dump scheme, and so it moves from field to field finding the next hotness. Self-driving cars, VR, EVs, AI, and so on. People soon realize that you can't just take a bunch of hipster tech employees and suddenly create non-solutions that need to have problems created for them to even be solutions, much less choosing extreme…

> startup world is just a massive pump and dump scheme, and so it moves from field to field finding the next hotness But we retain the solutions that work. A slime mold tries a bunch of useless paths in a maze before it finds the right one. Then it trims and reinforces. Most start-ups failing isn't a sure sign of wasted work.

What startups have provided lasting real solutions and value, not just capitalistic, in say the last decade?

Re: How much money we can raise for transparently idiotic startups?

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post #21

It's not just AI startups. It's almost all of them. The startup world is just a massive pump and dump scheme, and so it moves from field to field finding the next hotness. Self-driving cars, VR, EVs, AI, and so on. People soon realize that you can't just take a bunch of hipster tech employees and suddenly create non-solutions that need to have problems created for them to even be solutions, much less choosing extreme…

> startup world is just a massive pump and dump scheme, and so it moves from field to field finding the next hotness But we retain the solutions that work. A slime mold tries a bunch of useless paths in a maze before it finds the right one. Then it trims and reinforces. Most start-ups failing isn't a sure sign of wasted work.

You can save minutes of talking to folks through Months of work and tens of thousands of people-hours building something people don't want or need.

You can save months of research by spending years of work and hundreds of thousands of people-hours building something that doesn't work.

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